Pawan Kumar wrote:
Hello Justin Sir,

Greetings from Pawan
Thanks for your valuable suggestion and reply.
Initially I gave the emtol of 1000 and the output I got was :
Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 163 steps but did not reach the requested Fmax<1000.
Potential Energy = - 4.4516497e+05


...and how close did Fmax get to 1000?

Even I tried to minimize the popc bilayer which I took from Tieleman sir's website ( before generating a bigger bilayer using genconf ) but that also converged to machine precision but not to the requested Fmax<1000. How do I proceed further ?

Well, these things are not absolute; Fmax = 1000 is kind of a rule of thumb that I use in my own work, but sometimes it is not necessary. Careful equilibration should massage your system into cooperating.

-Justin

Thanks for your suggestions and help.

Thanking you,
Pawan

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:13 PM,

    Pawan Kumar wrote:
     > Hello Justin Sir,
     >
     > Greetings from Pawan
     > Thanks for your valuable suggestion and reply.
     > After inserting the protein in the bilayer using genbox I have
    minimized
     > the whole system without using any position restraints (i.e. define =
     > -DFLEXIBLE in em.mdp file). I used vanderwaal's distance parameter (
     > -vdwd of 0.6 ) in the genbox step.
     > After running mdrun for energy minimization I got the output as :
     > Steepest Descents converged to Fmax<2250 in 14 steps.
     > Potential energy = - 6.9484700e+05
     > Maximum force = 2.2114819e+03 on atom 34277
     > Norm. of force = 5.0103039e+04
     >

    You should try for an Fmax of no greater than 1000.  2250 is still
    very high.

     > I tried decreasing the emtol value in the em.mdp file but it
    ended with
     > machine precision.

    How far did it converge?  What was Fmax?

     > I have read in literature that 5000 steps of Steetest Descents run is
     > required after inserting the protein in the bilayer which should be
     > followed by atleast 1000 steps of conjugate gradients. How can I
     > accomplish this ? Is there any parameter to be given in the
    em.mdp file
     > ? I use steep as the integrator in the mdp file for energy
    minimization.

    Read the manual.

    Whether or not that exact setup is going to be "required" is likely
    system-specific.  I would say that as long as your system converges
    to a stable,
    negative Epot with a reasonable Fmax (less than 1000, but ideally
    lower) then
    you *may* have an appropriate starting structure.

    -Justin

     > Please help with some suggestions.
     > Thanks in advance.
     >
     > Thanking you,
     > Pawan
     >
     >
     >



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