Cheong Wee Loong, Daniel wrote:
Thanks for the explanation.  It is much clearer now.  Although I still don't
quite understand why we can't just use Protein A as the calculation group AND
output group to find the SASA of protein A.  I know it states that the
calculation group should be all non-solvent atoms, but I guess I am just
trying to understand why.  As in why do we need both the calculation and
output groups in the first place?  Why can't we just use the group of atoms
that we are want to find the SASA for?



That information is probably contained in the references that g_sas asks you to read and cite.

-Justin


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Cheong Wee Loong, Daniel wrote:
Thanks Justin for the reply.  I did read the help and manual and understand
 that the output file can be the whole or part of the calculation group.
What I don't quite understand is what the output group represents. I am
assuming that the calculation group would be the group of atoms that will
be probed to determine the solvent accessible are.  If so, what does the
output group represent?


Consider the following situation. I have a protein complex of protein A and protein B in explicit solvent with ions. The calculation group includes everything that is non-solvent. Now let's say I only care about the SASA of protein A. Therefore, protein A is my output group, and I get hydrophilic, hydrophobic, and total SASA for protein A. I can similarly run the
calculation (with the same non-solvent calculation group) and output the SASA
of protein B. This is useful in that if the same calculation and output group
is used, then some of the detail of (in my example) the protein complex may
be lost.

For an aqueous protein, this point is pretty moot, but the selectable output group is a feature of most Gromacs tools to allow the user flexibility and versatility.

-Justin

Thanks.


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Cheong Wee Loong, Daniel wrote:
Dear all,



I am interested to calculate the hydrophobic and hydrophilic area of the surface of the protein layer I am simulating. It looked like g_sas would
 be able to give me what I was looking for.  But I was wondering what the
difference is between the calculation group and the output group. In particular, what is the output group? I tried looking in the manual and
in the archives but I can't seem to find an answer to it.

From g_sas -h:

"The calculation group should always consists of all the non-solvent atoms
in the system. The output group can be the whole or part of the calculation
 group."

-Justin

Thanks.


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