Nancy wrote:
I tried decreasing emstep, and also tried increasing the number of steps, but I still get the following output from mdrun:

==================================================
Steepest Descents did not converge to Fmax < 1000 in 5001 steps.
Potential Energy  = -6.9329155e+03
Maximum force     =  2.1965221e+04 on atom 39
Norm of force     =  2.1487129e+03
==================================================

Please advise on how to further decrease the forces.


Figure out what's pushing on atom 39 to generate such a huge force. How to resolve the problem depends on what's happening. If it's just a poorly-placed water molecule, you can try deleting that water molecule and trying again. Beyond that, it will depend on what you find.

-Justin

Thanks,

Nancy



On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    Nancy wrote:

        Hello,

        I was trying to run equilibration on my solvated ethylene glycol
        system.  However, the system seems to be "exploding".  I believe
        this is due to inadequate energy minimisation, however, I am
        unable to minimise my system any further.  I am using the
        following .mdp file "minim.mdp" for minimsation:

        ==============================
        define        = -DFLEXIBLE
        integrator    = steep
        emtol        = 1000.0
        emstep          = 0.5
        nsteps        = 1000

        nstlist        = 1
        ns_type        = grid
        rlist        = 1.0
        coulombtype    = PME
        rcoulomb    = 1.0
        rvdw        = 1.3
        pbc        = xyz

        pme_order    = 4
        constraints     = none
        ==============================

        I process it with grompp, where "ethanediol_solv.gro" is the
        solvated system, and "ethanediol.top" is the topolgy generated
        with topolbuild:

        $ grompp -f minim.mdp -c ethanediol_solv.gro -p ethanediol.top
        -o em.tpr

        I then run it:

        $ mdrun -v -deffnm em

        mdrun outputs the following information:

        ==============================
        Steepest Descents did not converge to Fmax < 1000 in 1001 steps.
        Potential Energy  = -6.7546914e+03
        Maximum force     =  2.7262363e+04 on atom 34
        Norm of force     =  2.5032930e+03
        ==============================

        I have viewed the output trajectory of the minimisation and I
        can see that the waters do not move much.  I am wondering if
        there is a way to let solvent water molecules move about during
        minimsation, and/or how to remove some of them.  I am also
        unsure what value of emtol is reasonable for this type of small
        system.


    I think this is the root of your problem.  The maximum force is far
    too high. Decrease your value of emstep (the default of 0.01 is
    generally fine), and try again.  You will not likely see large
    changes over the course of the trajectory.  EM makes small changes
    to optimize geometry, hydrogen bonding, etc.  There are no dynamics
    (remember that EM is essentially conducted at 0 K).

    -Justin

        Please advise

        Thanks

        Nancy




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