Naga Rajesh Tummala wrote:
Dear Mark,

Some groups which were constrained in all 3 dimensions in one .mdp whereas in other .mdp that groups were not constrained in x-direction.
But now I used same .mdp file and now even "nrdf" are same.

Strangely (common atleast when doing this simulation), the total energy and other thermodynamics quantities were "nan" before but now they show some huge number.

One thing I observed is the simulation runs fine only once (esp. first time), but throws up error innumerous times after that.

I am using the same GROMACS built, same .mdp file and same values for GMXLIB (I never changed them so far)

Below are the comparison of thermodynamic comparsions

LJ (SR)          step   0:        103090,  step   0:   4.7561e+18
Potential        step   0:       -707489,  step   0:   4.7561e+18
Kinetic En.      step   0:       1468.08,  step   0:  1.02499e+35
Total Energy     step   0:       -706021,  step   0:  1.02499e+35
Temperature      step   0:       4.35424,  step   0:  3.04006e+32
Pressure (bar)   step   0:      -3712.49,  step   0:  2.73697e+33
Vir-XX           step   0:       44045.4,  step   0: -5.41605e+20
Vir-XY           step   0:      -2748.83,  step   0:  1.41247e+20
Vir-XZ           step   0:       1057.24,  step   0:  4.23707e+20
Vir-YX           step   0:      -2800.27,  step   0:  1.41247e+20
Vir-YY           step   0:       46710.7,  step   0: -1.87114e+20
Vir-YZ           step   0:        2599.8,  step   0:  1.39343e+19
Vir-ZX           step   0:       1091.55,  step   0:  4.23708e+20
Vir-ZY           step   0:       2549.65,  step   0:  1.39336e+19
Vir-ZZ           step   0:       49744.6,  step   0: -2.84725e+21
Pres-XX (bar)    step   0:      -3489.58,  step   0:  1.70507e+33
Pres-XY (bar)    step   0:       219.836,  step   0: -5.38913e+32
Pres-XZ (bar)    step   0:       -84.925,  step   0: -2.37631e+33
Pres-YX (bar)    step   0:       223.957,  step   0: -5.38913e+32
Pres-YY (bar)    step   0:      -3703.21,  step   0:  2.67507e+32
Pres-YZ (bar)    step   0:      -208.473,  step   0:   6.2505e+32
Pres-ZX (bar)    step   0:      -87.6739,  step   0: -2.37631e+33
Pres-ZY (bar)    step   0:      -204.455,  step   0:   6.2505e+32
Pres-ZZ (bar)    step   0:      -3944.69,  step   0:  6.23832e+33
#Surf*SurfTen    step   0:      -2141.58,  step   0:  3.22932e+34
LJ-SR:FMN-CNT    step   0:      -588.918,  step   0:  2.06986e+18
LJ-SR:FMN-CMT    step   0:      -558.573,  step   0:  1.26082e+18
LJ-SR:CNT-SOD    step   0:       -1.1571,  step   0:  3.29985e+12
LJ-SR:CNT-SOL    step   0:      -305.429,  step   0:  1.42541e+18
LJ-SR:SOD-CMT    step   0:     -0.717905,  step   0:  5.87209e+11
T-System         step   0:       4.35424,  step   0:  3.04006e+32

*previously*

LJ (SR)          step   0:        103090,  step   0:          nan
Potential        step   0:       -707489,  step   0:          nan
Kinetic En.      step   0:       1468.08,  step   0:          nan
Total Energy     step   0:       -706021,  step   0:          nan
Temperature      step   0:       4.35424,  step   0:          nan
Pressure (bar)   step   0:      -3712.49,  step   0:          nan
Vir-XX           step   0:       44045.4,  step   0:          nan
Vir-XY           step   0:      -2748.83,  step   0:          nan
Vir-XZ           step   0:       1057.24,  step   0:          nan
Vir-YX           step   0:      -2800.27,  step   0:          nan
Vir-YY           step   0:       46710.7,  step   0:          nan
Vir-YZ           step   0:        2599.8,  step   0:          nan
Vir-ZX           step   0:       1091.55,  step   0:          nan
Vir-ZY           step   0:       2549.65,  step   0:          nan
Vir-ZZ           step   0:       49744.6,  step   0:          nan
Pres-XX (bar)    step   0:      -3489.58,  step   0:          nan
Pres-XY (bar)    step   0:       219.836,  step   0:          nan
Pres-XZ (bar)    step   0:       -84.925,  step   0:          nan
Pres-YX (bar)    step   0:       223.957,  step   0:          nan
Pres-YY (bar)    step   0:      -3703.21,  step   0:          nan
Pres-YZ (bar)    step   0:      -208.473,  step   0:          nan
Pres-ZX (bar)    step   0:      -87.6739,  step   0:          nan
Pres-ZY (bar)    step   0:      -204.455,  step   0:          nan
Pres-ZZ (bar)    step   0:      -3944.69,  step   0:          nan
#Surf*SurfTen    step   0:      -2141.58,  step   0:          nan
LJ-SR:FMN-CNT    step   0:      -588.918,  step   0:  2.06986e+18
LJ-SR:FMN-CMT    step   0:      -558.573,  step   0:  1.26082e+18
LJ-SR:CNT-SOD    step   0:       -1.1571,  step   0:  3.29985e+12
LJ-SR:CNT-SOL    step   0:      -305.429,  step   0:          nan
LJ-SR:SOD-CMT    step   0:     -0.717905,  step   0:  5.87209e+11
LJ-SR:CMT-SOL    step   0:      -313.823,  step   0:          nan
T-System         step   0:       4.35424,  step   0:          nan


It looks to me like you have severe atomic overlap between these two systems (and hence the astronomically large values for short-range nonbonded parameters). Have you done any sort of energy minimization and equilibration on this system?

-Justin

Thanks
Rajesh


On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Mark Abraham <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Naga Rajesh Tummala wrote:

        Dear Mark,

        When I compare the .tpr files the following is the online line
        where its
        different
        "inputrec->grpopts.nrdf[0] (8.240200e+04 - 8.110200e+04)"


    IIRC "nrdf" is short for "number of degrees of freedom" which in
    turn suggests that the number of constraints has changed between the
    files, but I don't know if that's consistent with all other .tpr
    entries being identical.

    Did you make these .tpr files with different .mdp files? Different
    GMXLIB values? Different GROMACS installations?

    Mark


        When I compare two energy files,
        "LJ-SR:FMN-CNT    step   0:      -588.918,  step   0:  2.06986e+18
        LJ-SR:FMN-CMT    step   0:      -558.573,  step   0:  1.26082e+18
        LJ-SR:CNT-SOD    step   0:       -1.1571,  step   0:  3.29985e+12
        LJ-SR:CNT-SOL    step   0:      -305.429,  step   0:          nan
        LJ-SR:SOD-CMT    step   0:     -0.717905,  step   0:  5.87209e+11
        LJ-SR:CMT-SOL    step   0:      -313.823,  step   0:          nan"

        The total energies  and also the virial, pressure, surface
        tension and other
        thermodynamics quantities are different.

        When I compare .trr files, there is no difference between two
        files in the
        initial step.

        I personally felt that there was something wrong with the force
        field files,
        but I could not find anything there.

        Thanks
        Rajesh


        On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Mark Abraham
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:

            Naga Rajesh Tummala wrote:

                Dear All,

                Two simulations runs starting from same initial
                configuration results in
                very different energies in the first step. Both are
                identical simulations,
                nothing is changed.
                Did anybody encounter such problem before ? If yes, can
                you let me know
                what
                to do to fix this problem.

            That seems intrinsically impossible. Please use gmxcheck to
            compare your
            input and output files and report back.

            Mark

             Below are the energy outputs from 2 simulation runs. First
            one ran

                smoothly
                for 5000 time steps where as second one crashed after
                0th step.

                 From Run 1:
time: 0.00000e+00 step: 0 Component Energy Av. Energy Sum Energy Bond 5.57798e+03 0.00000e+00 5.57798e+03 Angle 5.60521e+03 0.00000e+00 5.60521e+03 Proper Dih. 2.45557e+03 0.00000e+00 2.45557e+03 LJ-14 3.58007e+03 0.00000e+00 3.58007e+03
                            Coulomb-14  -9.18661e+02   0.00000e+00
                 -9.18661e+02
LJ (SR) 1.03090e+05 0.00000e+00 1.03090e+05
                         Disper. corr.  -1.44859e+03   0.00000e+00
                 -1.44859e+03
                          Coulomb (SR)  -7.52008e+05   0.00000e+00
                 -7.52008e+05
                          Coul. recip.  -7.34228e+04   0.00000e+00
                 -7.34228e+04
                             Potential  -7.07489e+05   0.00000e+00
                 -7.07489e+05
Kinetic En. 1.46808e+03 0.00000e+00 1.46808e+03
                          Total Energy  -7.06021e+05   0.00000e+00
                 -7.06021e+05
Temperature 4.35424e+00 0.00000e+00 4.35424e+00
                        Pressure (bar)  -3.71249e+03   0.00000e+00
                 -3.71249e+03
Vir-XX 4.40454e+04 0.00000e+00 4.40454e+04
                                Vir-XY  -2.74883e+03   0.00000e+00
                 -2.74883e+03
Vir-XZ 1.05724e+03 0.00000e+00 1.05724e+03
                                Vir-YX  -2.80027e+03   0.00000e+00
                 -2.80027e+03
Vir-YY 4.67107e+04 0.00000e+00 4.67107e+04 Vir-YZ 2.59980e+03 0.00000e+00 2.59980e+03 Vir-ZX 1.09155e+03 0.00000e+00 1.09155e+03 Vir-ZY 2.54965e+03 0.00000e+00 2.54965e+03 Vir-ZZ 4.97446e+04 0.00000e+00 4.97446e+04
                         Pres-XX (bar)  -3.48958e+03   0.00000e+00
                 -3.48958e+03
Pres-XY (bar) 2.19836e+02 0.00000e+00 2.19836e+02
                         Pres-XZ (bar)  -8.49250e+01   0.00000e+00
                 -8.49250e+01
Pres-YX (bar) 2.23957e+02 0.00000e+00 2.23957e+02
                         Pres-YY (bar)  -3.70321e+03   0.00000e+00
                 -3.70321e+03
                         Pres-YZ (bar)  -2.08473e+02   0.00000e+00
                 -2.08473e+02
                         Pres-ZX (bar)  -8.76739e+01   0.00000e+00
                 -8.76739e+01
                         Pres-ZY (bar)  -2.04455e+02   0.00000e+00
                 -2.04455e+02
                         Pres-ZZ (bar)  -3.94469e+03   0.00000e+00
                 -3.94469e+03
                         #Surf*SurfTen  -2.14158e+03   0.00000e+00
                 -2.14158e+03
                                  Mu-X  -3.94890e+03   0.00000e+00
                 -3.94890e+03
Mu-Y 8.47297e+00 0.00000e+00 8.47297e+00 Mu-Z 3.71283e+02 0.00000e+00 3.71283e+02 Coul-SR:FMN-FMN 1.65804e+04 0.00000e+00 1.65804e+04
                         LJ-SR:FMN-FMN  -4.43681e+03   0.00000e+00
                 -4.43681e+03
                       Coul-14:FMN-FMN  -9.18661e+02   0.00000e+00
                 -9.18661e+02
LJ-14:FMN-FMN 3.58007e+03 0.00000e+00 3.58007e+03
                         *LJ-SR:FMN-CNT  -5.88918e+02   0.00000e+00
                 -5.88918e+02*
                       Coul-SR:FMN-SOD  -8.47612e+04   0.00000e+00
                 -8.47612e+04
LJ-SR:FMN-SOD 4.93246e+02 0.00000e+00 4.93246e+02
                         LJ-SR:FMN-CMT  -5.58573e+02   0.00000e+00
                 -5.58573e+02
                       Coul-SR:FMN-SOL  -2.41537e+04   0.00000e+00
                 -2.41537e+04
                         LJ-SR:FMN-SOL  -4.60796e+03   0.00000e+00
                 -4.60796e+03
                         LJ-SR:CNT-SOD  -1.15710e+00   0.00000e+00
                 -1.15710e+00
                         LJ-SR:CNT-SOL  -3.05429e+02   0.00000e+00
                 -3.05429e+02
Coul-SR:SOD-SOD 2.04577e+04 0.00000e+00 2.04577e+04
                         LJ-SR:SOD-SOD  -2.29117e+01   0.00000e+00
                 -2.29117e+01
                         LJ-SR:SOD-CMT  -7.17905e-01   0.00000e+00
                 -7.17905e-01
                       Coul-SR:SOD-SOL  -1.84476e+04   0.00000e+00
                 -1.84476e+04
LJ-SR:SOD-SOL 1.89181e+03 0.00000e+00 1.89181e+03
                         LJ-SR:CMT-SOL  -3.13823e+02   0.00000e+00
                 -3.13823e+02
                       Coul-SR:SOL-SOL  -6.61683e+05   0.00000e+00
                 -6.61683e+05
LJ-SR:SOL-SOL 1.11541e+05 0.00000e+00 1.11541e+05 T-System 4.35424e+00 0.00000e+00 4.35424e+00 Xi-System 0.00000e+00 0.00000e+00 0.00000e+00

                 From Run 2:
time: 0.00000e+00 step: 0 Component Energy Av. Energy Sum Energy Bond 5.57798e+03 0.00000e+00 5.57798e+03 Angle 5.60521e+03 0.00000e+00 5.60521e+03 Proper Dih. 2.45557e+03 0.00000e+00 2.45557e+03 LJ-14 3.58007e+03 0.00000e+00 3.58007e+03
                            Coulomb-14  -9.18661e+02   0.00000e+00
                 -9.18661e+02
LJ (SR) 4.75610e+18 0.00000e+00 4.75610e+18
                         Disper. corr.  -1.44859e+03   0.00000e+00
                 -1.44859e+03
                          Coulomb (SR)  -7.52008e+05   0.00000e+00
                 -7.52008e+05
                          Coul. recip.  -7.34228e+04   0.00000e+00
                 -7.34228e+04
Potential 4.75610e+18 0.00000e+00 4.75610e+18 Kinetic En. 1.17875e+35 0.00000e+00 1.17875e+35 Total Energy 1.17875e+35 0.00000e+00 1.17875e+35 Temperature 3.44094e+32 0.00000e+00 3.44094e+32 Pressure (bar) 3.14754e+33 0.00000e+00 3.14754e+33
                                Vir-XX  -5.41605e+20   0.00000e+00
                 -5.41605e+20
Vir-XY 1.41247e+20 0.00000e+00 1.41247e+20 Vir-XZ 4.23707e+20 0.00000e+00 4.23707e+20 Vir-YX 1.41247e+20 0.00000e+00 1.41247e+20
                                Vir-YY  -1.87114e+20   0.00000e+00
                 -1.87114e+20
Vir-YZ 1.39343e+19 0.00000e+00 1.39343e+19 Vir-ZX 4.23708e+20 0.00000e+00 4.23708e+20 Vir-ZY 1.39336e+19 0.00000e+00 1.39336e+19
                                Vir-ZZ  -2.84725e+21   0.00000e+00
                 -2.84725e+21
Pres-XX (bar) 2.93679e+33 0.00000e+00 2.93679e+33
                         Pres-XY (bar)  -5.38913e+32   0.00000e+00
                 -5.38913e+32
                         Pres-XZ (bar)  -2.37631e+33   0.00000e+00
                 -2.37631e+33
                         Pres-YX (bar)  -5.38913e+32   0.00000e+00
                 -5.38913e+32
Pres-YY (bar) 2.67507e+32 0.00000e+00 2.67507e+32 Pres-YZ (bar) 6.25050e+32 0.00000e+00 6.25050e+32
                         Pres-ZX (bar)  -2.37631e+33   0.00000e+00
                 -2.37631e+33
Pres-ZY (bar) 6.25050e+32 0.00000e+00 6.25050e+32 Pres-ZZ (bar) 6.23832e+33 0.00000e+00 6.23832e+33 #Surf*SurfTen 2.85064e+34 0.00000e+00 2.85064e+34
                                  Mu-X  -3.94890e+03   0.00000e+00
                 -3.94890e+03
Mu-Y 8.47297e+00 0.00000e+00 8.47297e+00 Mu-Z 3.71283e+02 0.00000e+00 3.71283e+02 Coul-SR:FMN-FMN 1.65804e+04 0.00000e+00 1.65804e+04
                         LJ-SR:FMN-FMN  -4.43681e+03   0.00000e+00
                 -4.43681e+03
                       Coul-14:FMN-FMN  -9.18661e+02   0.00000e+00
                 -9.18661e+02
LJ-14:FMN-FMN 3.58007e+03 0.00000e+00 3.58007e+03 * LJ-SR:FMN-CNT 2.06986e+18 0.00000e+00 2.06986e+18*
                       Coul-SR:FMN-SOD  -8.47612e+04   0.00000e+00
                 -8.47612e+04
LJ-SR:FMN-SOD 4.93246e+02 0.00000e+00 4.93246e+02 LJ-SR:FMN-CMT 1.26082e+18 0.00000e+00 1.26082e+18
                       Coul-SR:FMN-SOL  -2.41537e+04   0.00000e+00
                 -2.41537e+04
                         LJ-SR:FMN-SOL  -4.60796e+03   0.00000e+00
                 -4.60796e+03
LJ-SR:CNT-SOD 3.29985e+12 0.00000e+00 3.29985e+12 LJ-SR:CNT-SOL 1.42541e+18 0.00000e+00 1.42541e+18 Coul-SR:SOD-SOD 2.04577e+04 0.00000e+00 2.04577e+04
                         LJ-SR:SOD-SOD  -2.29117e+01   0.00000e+00
                 -2.29117e+01
LJ-SR:SOD-CMT 5.87209e+11 0.00000e+00 5.87209e+11
                       Coul-SR:SOD-SOL  -1.84476e+04   0.00000e+00
                 -1.84476e+04
LJ-SR:SOD-SOL 1.89181e+03 0.00000e+00 1.89181e+03
                         LJ-SR:CMT-SOL  -3.13899e+02   0.00000e+00
                 -3.13899e+02
                       Coul-SR:SOL-SOL  -6.61683e+05   0.00000e+00
                 -6.61683e+05
LJ-SR:SOL-SOL 1.11541e+05 0.00000e+00 1.11541e+05 T-System 3.44094e+32 0.00000e+00 3.44094e+32 Xi-System 0.00000e+00 0.00000e+00 0.00000e+00

                Thanks a  lot
                Any help is greatly appreciated.

                Thanks
                Rajesh



                
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