st wrote:
Hi,

I now minimized the energy before the mdrun, and still got the same problem. I also tried several other things: 1. I mdrun the system without water, it runs fine. But once I added water, it stops propagating steps/files while still seems running. 2. The system has nonzero charge of 0.9, and the Coulomb energy seems (very high) the major contribution to the total energy.
Any suggestion will be appreciated!


I would address #2 first. What is the cause of a net charge of 0.9? This magnitude of charge is non-negligible. What force field are you using? I seem to recall multiple people having non-zero charges when they used OPLS-AA with "zwitterion" as the termini (which is wrong for a full protein). Could this be part of your problem?

-Justin

below is the output of a recent try:
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Input Parameters:
  integrator           = md
  nsteps               = 40000
  init_step            = 0
  ns_type              = Grid
  nstlist              = 1
  ndelta               = 2
  nstcomm              = 1
  comm_mode            = Linear
  nstlog               = 100
  nstxout              = 100
  nstvout              = 100
  nstfout              = 100
  nstenergy            = 100
  nstxtcout            = 100
  init_t               = 0
  delta_t              = 0.0005
  xtcprec              = 1e+06
  nkx                  = 50
  nky                  = 50
  nkz                  = 80
  pme_order            = 4
  ewald_rtol           = 1e-05
  ewald_geometry       = 0
  epsilon_surface      = 0
  optimize_fft         = TRUE
  ePBC                 = xyz
  bPeriodicMols        = FALSE
  bContinuation        = FALSE
  bShakeSOR            = FALSE
  etc                  = Nose-Hoover
  epc                  = No
  epctype              = Isotropic
  tau_p                = 1
  ref_p (3x3):
     ref_p[    0]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
     ref_p[    1]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
     ref_p[    2]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
  compress (3x3):
     compress[    0]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
     compress[    1]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
     compress[    2]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
  refcoord_scaling     = No
  posres_com (3):
     posres_com[0]= 0.00000e+00
     posres_com[1]= 0.00000e+00
     posres_com[2]= 0.00000e+00
  posres_comB (3):
     posres_comB[0]= 0.00000e+00
     posres_comB[1]= 0.00000e+00
     posres_comB[2]= 0.00000e+00
  andersen_seed        = 815131
  rlist                = 1
  rtpi                 = 0.05
  coulombtype          = PME
  rcoulomb_switch      = 0
  rcoulomb             = 1
  vdwtype              = Cut-off
  rvdw_switch          = 0
  rvdw                 = 1
  epsilon_r            = 1
  epsilon_rf           = 1
  tabext               = 1
  implicit_solvent     = No
  gb_algorithm         = Still
  gb_epsilon_solvent   = 80
  nstgbradii           = 1
  rgbradii             = 2
  gb_saltconc          = 0
  gb_obc_alpha         = 1
  gb_obc_beta          = 0.8
  gb_obc_gamma         = 4.85
  sa_surface_tension   = 2.092
  DispCorr             = No
  free_energy          = no
  init_lambda          = 0
  sc_alpha             = 0
  sc_power             = 0
  sc_sigma             = 0.3
  delta_lambda         = 0
  nwall                = 0
  wall_type            = 9-3
  wall_atomtype[0]     = -1
  wall_atomtype[1]     = -1
  wall_density[0]      = 0
  wall_density[1]      = 0
  wall_ewald_zfac      = 3
  pull                 = no
  disre                = No
  disre_weighting      = Conservative
  disre_mixed          = FALSE
  dr_fc                = 1000
  dr_tau               = 0
  nstdisreout          = 100
  orires_fc            = 0
  orires_tau           = 0
  nstorireout          = 100
  dihre-fc             = 1000
  em_stepsize          = 0.01
  em_tol               = 10
  niter                = 20
  fc_stepsize          = 0
  nstcgsteep           = 1000
  nbfgscorr            = 10
  ConstAlg             = Lincs
  shake_tol            = 0.0001
  lincs_order          = 4
  lincs_warnangle      = 30
  lincs_iter           = 1
  bd_fric              = 0
  ld_seed              = 1993
  cos_accel            = 0
  deform (3x3):
     deform[    0]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
     deform[    1]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
     deform[    2]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
  userint1             = 0
  userint2             = 0
  userint3             = 0
  userint4             = 0
  userreal1            = 0
  userreal2            = 0
  userreal3            = 0
  userreal4            = 0
grpopts:
  nrdf:       59322
  ref_t:         300
  tau_t:         0.5
anneal:          No
ann_npoints:           0
  acc:               0           0           0
  nfreeze:           N           N           N
  energygrp_flags[  0]: 0
  efield-x:
     n = 0
  efield-xt:
     n = 0
  efield-y:
     n = 0
  efield-yt:
     n = 0
  efield-z:
     n = 0
  efield-zt:
     n = 0
  bQMMM                = FALSE
  QMconstraints        = 0
  QMMMscheme           = 0
  scalefactor          = 1
qm_opts:
  ngQM                 = 0
Table routines are used for coulomb: TRUE
Table routines are used for vdw:     FALSE
Will do PME sum in reciprocal space.

++++ PLEASE READ AND CITE THE FOLLOWING REFERENCE ++++
U. Essman, L. Perela, M. L. Berkowitz, T. Darden, H. Lee and L. G. Pedersen
A smooth particle mesh Ewald method
J. Chem. Phys. 103 (1995) pp. 8577-8592
-------- -------- --- Thank You --- -------- --------

Using a Gaussian width (1/beta) of 0.320163 nm for Ewald
Cut-off's:   NS: 1   Coulomb: 1   LJ: 1
System total charge: -0.900
Generated table with 4000 data points for Ewald.
Tabscale = 2000 points/nm
Generated table with 4000 data points for LJ6.
Tabscale = 2000 points/nm
Generated table with 4000 data points for LJ12.
Tabscale = 2000 points/nm

Enabling SPC water optimization for 6481 molecules.

Configuring nonbonded kernels...
Testing ia32 SSE2 support... present.


Removing pbc first time
Center of mass motion removal mode is Linear
We have the following groups for center of mass motion removal:
 0:  rest
There are: 19775 Atoms
Max number of connections per atom is 37
Total number of connections is 53706
Max number of graph edges per atom is 4
Total number of graph edges is 26788
Initial temperature: 0 K

Started mdrun on node 0 Wed Sep  9 10:52:42 2009

          Step           Time         Lambda
             0        0.00000        0.00000

Grid: 8 x 8 x 12 cells
  Energies (kJ/mol)
          Bond          Morse          Angle       G96Angle    Proper Dih.
   3.89303e+02    1.05091e+01    6.55879e+01    7.38907e+00    1.17177e+03
Ryckaert-Bell.        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip.      Potential
  -3.77214e+00    2.37518e+01   -2.87848e+05   -2.00200e+04   -3.06203e+05
   Kinetic En.   Total Energy  Conserved En.    Temperature Pressure (bar)
   6.24804e+02   -3.05578e+05   -3.05578e+05    2.53350e+00   -8.53815e+03
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


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From: "Justin A. Lemkul" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:35 PM
To: "Discussion list for GROMACS users" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] mdrun running without simulating new steps



st wrote:
Hi,
I run a two-molecule system with mdrun_d in a water box (~10000 water molecules.)
The program looks running properly (no errors nor warnnings)
However the program seems stop outputting files (because the output file size stop increases) after about 5min. The mdrun_d interface looks normal without any errors, the md.log contains only two saves:

<snip>

Grid: 9 x 9 x 14 cells
   Energies (kJ/mol)
Bond Morse Angle G96Angle Proper Dih.
    3.35232e+05    3.27635e+01    7.09937e+02    1.73811e+01 2.47097e+03
LJ (SR) Coulomb (SR) Coul. recip. Potential Kinetic En.
    1.48669e+05   -4.50390e+05   -1.89304e+04    1.78117e+04 4.38796e+05
   Total Energy  Conserved En.    Temperature Pressure (bar)
    4.56608e+05    4.56608e+05    1.09892e+03   -5.74950e+04
 Step           Time         Lambda
            100        0.05000        0.00000
 Energies (kJ/mol)
Bond Morse Angle G96Angle Proper Dih.
    3.38536e+05    1.06967e+03    2.21584e+04    4.26526e+01 3.13457e+03
LJ (SR) Coulomb (SR) Coul. recip. Potential Kinetic En.
    8.73487e+04   -5.64854e+05   -4.48577e+04   -1.57422e+05 3.56524e+05
   Total Energy  Conserved En.    Temperature Pressure (bar)
    1.99102e+05    7.60608e+05    8.92881e+02    7.56563e+04


I'd say the system is exploding. Your temperature is oscillating between 1000 K and 893 K using a Nose-Hoover thermostat, and your potential starts off in excess of 10^4 kJ mol^-1. Did you run any sort of energy minimization or weak-coupling equilibration before this run?

It's odd that mdrun wouldn't give some sort of LINCS warning or write out step*.pdb files right beforehand, though.

-Justin

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