Aditi Borkar wrote:
Thanx Justin.

I had tried that too. Using both parameters I get the same outcome. I
notice that increasing the emtol to 2000 (that effectively reduces the
number of steps my system undergoes before converging) retains most of
the structure. Should I change the dielectric constant of the solvent
because my system is highly charged ( -744 e). The topology parameters
from ASP side chain that I used are as follows:


I would take a step back and consider whether or not this model system is even valid. A 1M solution of acetic acid would have a pH of roughly 2.4, meaning that most of the molecules would be protonated; a 9M solution would probably be at pH close to 0, meaning that having 744 negatively-charged molecules of acetate probably does not come close to modeling reality.

If anything, you should probably be working with a net neutral system, since you are probably experiencing a significant amount of charge repulsion in the system. But strongly consider whether or not this model is appropriate.

-Justin

[ moleculetype ]
; Name            nrexcl
ACA             3

[ atoms ]
;   nr       type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr     charge       mass
typeB    chargeB      massB
     1        CH3      1    ACA     CB      1          0     15.035   ; qtot 0
     2          C      1    ACA     CA      2       0.27     12.011
; qtot 0.27
     3         OM      1    ACA    OD1      2     -0.635    15.9994
; qtot -0.365
     4         OM      1    ACA    OD2      2     -0.635    15.9994   ; qtot -1

[ bonds ]
;  ai    aj funct            c0            c1            c2            c3
    1     2     2    gb_26
    2     3     2    gb_5
    2     4     2    gb_5

[ angles ]
;  ai    aj    ak funct            c0            c1            c2            c3
    1     2     3     2    ga_21
    1     2     4     2    ga_21
    3     2     4     2    ga_37

[ dihedrals ]
;  ai    aj    ak    al funct            c0            c1
c2            c3
    1     4     3     2     2    gi_1

-Aditi Borkar,
TIFR,
Mumbai, India



On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <[email protected]> wrote:

Aditi Borkar wrote:
Dear All,

Hello!

I am simulating a protein in a box of 9M acetic acid. I have obtained
the coordinates and gromacs topology for AcOH from PRODRG. The AcOH
has net -1 charge and the topology file is as follows:

PRODRG topologies generally produce unsatisfactory charges.  For acetic
acid, I would use the same charges found in an ASP side chain as a starting
point.  You will note that your topology differs greatly from an ASP side
chain in any of the Gromos96 force fields.

[ moleculetype ]
; Name nrexcl
ACA      3

[ atoms ]
;   nr      type  resnr resid  atom  cgnr   charge     mass
    1       CH3     1 ACA     CAA     1    0.056  15.0350
    2         C       1  ACA     CAD     1    0.393  12.0110
    3        OM     1  ACA     OAC     1   -0.725  15.9994
    4        OM     1  ACA     OAB     1   -0.724  15.9994

[ bonds ]
; ai  aj  fu    c0, c1, ...
  1   2   1    0.153    334720.0    0.153    334720.0 ;   CAA  CAD
  2   3   1    0.125    418400.0    0.125    418400.0 ;   CAD  OAC
  2   4   1    0.125    418400.0    0.125    418400.0 ;   CAD  OAB

[ pairs ]
; ai  aj  fu    c0, c1, ...

[ angles ]
; ai  aj  ak  fu    c0, c1, ...
  1   2   3   1    120.0       418.4    120.0       418.4 ;   CAA  CAD
 OAC
  1   2   4   1    120.0       418.4    120.0       418.4 ;   CAA  CAD
 OAB
  3   2   4   1    126.0       502.1    126.0       502.1 ;   OAC  CAD
 OAB

[ dihedrals ]
; ai  aj  ak  al  fu    c0, c1, m, ...
  2   1   4   3   2      0.0 1673.6        0.0 1673.6   ; imp   CAD
CAA  OAB  OAC

When I had tried taking uncharged AcOH, during equilibration, the
water and AcOH were completely segregating into two layers (like a
biphasic system).

My problem arises when I perform energy mimization on my solvated
protein. With 300 steps of EM (emtol 1000 and emstep .01) the EM
doesn't converge and more distrurbingly within these few steps, the
secondary structure of my protein is completely lost. This problem
does not occur when I do EM in box containing protein and pure water.
The Fmax is displayed onto 2 TRP residues.

It is strange that this degree of change is occurring during EM.  But I
wouldn't try anything else until you're sure you are starting with
reasonable parameters (see above).

-Justin

My em.mdp file is as follows:

define           =  -DFLEXIBLE
constraints      =  none
integrator       =  steep
dt               =  0.002    ; ps !
nsteps           =  300
nstlist          =  10
ns_type          =  grid
rlist            =  0.9
coulombtype      =  PME
rcoulomb         =  0.9
rvdw             =  0.9
fourierspacing       = 0.12
fourier_nx     =  0
fourier_ny     =  0
fourier_nz     =  0
pme_order      =  4
ewald_rtol     =  1e-5
optimize_fft         =  yes
;
;      Energy minimizing stuff
;
emtol              =  1000.0
emstep             =  0.01

Please help!

Thank you!

-Aditi Borkar,
Tata Institute of Fundamental Research,
Mumbai,
India.
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