Rossen Apostolov wrote:
Hi,

It is now possible to search the mailing list archives from the new
website: http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search . There is
a link to it at the "Quick Links" section on the front page also.

Currently:

   * Only the [gmx-users] mailng list is being indexed.
   * The index is updated every 2 hours.
   * The search input is not parsed, rather search is done only for the
exact string.
   * The results are displayed in descending order of the date. You can
change the sorting by clicking on the column names.
   * For some postings, the contents section in the table is empty but
following the link will display the full contents.
   * It is likely that the interface will be implemented into the
website differently.

That's great. Hopefully we'll get more content and functionality soon too!

Also, almost all of the information from the old wiki/www sites is now
transfered and incorporated, although many pages contain broken links to
them. They will be fixed one by one, but everyone is welcome to update
them when you come across such.

I would have approached this process differently. The MediaWiki content was intrinsically free-form, and now we're apparently trying to shoehorn it into something hierarchical. This process converts hundreds of links that are now defunct because they were created as relative links to targets in a free-form database, and have now been automatically converted to what look like hard links to non-existent targets. The correct targets are presumably placed somewhere in a fairly arbitrary hierarchy (e.g. what's the difference between "Best Practices" and "How-tos"?), which anyone wanting to spend the time to fix now has to memorise. These categories existed in the previous wiki, but nobody adding content or links was forced to use or know them. That's a big change in philosophy.

I've spent a lot of time over years creating and maintaining a large slab of this content (with other notable contributions from quite a few people - Dallas Warren in particular) and feel that this new imported format greatly reduces the utility of the information. While some curated hierarchical indexes are good things for helping to find content, I think preserving the underlying lack of hierarchy is a much better approach to preserving the usefulness of the content. The alternative is appointing a curator and having them spend lots of time organizing and fixing links. Given the slow rate of transition of GROMACS web content from old to new forms, I think we should be very keen not to make more centralized work, and to preserve the goodwill of previous "external" volunteers :-)

I'd much rather see the Documentation section (http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation) have links to
* the paper manuals,
* either a compatible Wiki, or a flat wiki-style import of the previous wiki (so that automated link conversion can just work - even if it's done with a simple perl script!),
* some new and updated index pages for that previous wiki,
* and if necessary, any other non-wiki content.

Cheers,

Mark
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