Amit Choubey wrote:
Hi Justin,

Yes you are right. I didnt fix the periodicity to start with. Could you tell me how to do that, which command to work with?
Thanks.


Periodicity is corrected using trjconv. This involves creating a .tpr file of to represent the system and using trjconv -pbc mol -ur compact, or some such equivalent.

My tutorial gives some information on doing this.  Please see:

http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/membrane_protein/index.html

-Justin

amit

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    Amit Choubey wrote:

        Dear Gromacs Users,

        I have been trying to generate a larger lipid system but am
        running into troubles due to improper initial co-ordinates set
        up. Following are the steps i am trying to follow.

        1. I start with a 128 dppc membrane and use genconf to create a
        larger system. I got the dppc128.pdb from Dr. Peter Tieleman's
        website.


    Did you correct for periodicity before you extended the system?  The
    files distributed by Tieleman are compact representations.


        2. I changed my topology file accordingly (change the number of
        DPPC and Water molecules)

        3. I move on to energy minimization. During the mdrun i see the
        following message :-

        Warning: 1-4 interaction between 1854 and 1857 at distance 6.249
        which is larger than the 1-4 table size 2.800 nm
        These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
        This usually means your system is exploding,
        if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
        or with user tables increase the table size


    Looks to me like two bonded atoms are across the box from each
    other, which seems to answer my question above :)


        I also notice that the max force does not converge to less than
        2000 rather its of the order of 2e+06 .

        4. I tried to do energy minimization again on the above system
        but the steepest descent could not change the potential energy
        substantially and terminated after less that 20 steps. I again
        noticed the following warning
        Warning: 1-4 interaction between 1854 and 1857 at distance 5.269
        which is larger than the 1-4 table size 2.800 nm
        These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
        This usually means your system is exploding,
        if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
        or with user tables increase the table size

        5. Now i changed my mdp files to do periodic_molecules = yes .
        Note pbc = xyz has been used as default.


    Bad idea.  This option is for "infinite" molecules, like nanotubes
    or graphene sheets that are supposed to extend across the simulation
    box.


        Same warnings were printed out during energy minimization.

        6. I also tried to use the table-extension option and increased
        its value to 10 nm but later the LINCS printed out too many
        warnings and MD could not be done. I know that its not at all a
        good idea to increase the 1-4 cut off.


    The standard advice is to fix the problem with the system, not
    change the table-extension.


        By the way to be specific the system size was 12 x 12 x 6 in
        nm3. I had 256 lipids and about 7300 water molecules.
I believe that this might not be the best way to create a larger
        bilayer system. Could somebody suggest me other ways of doing this?


    Fix periodicity, then use genconf.

    -Justin

        Any help will be appreciated thank you

        Amit



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