Jennifer Williams wrote:

Hi Justin,

Thanks for the reply. I am in fact studying one huge molecule. All of my atoms are bonded together in one large structure (kind of like a zeolite) so I have necessarily defined them as a single residue.


I would argue that you have a polymer, which can certainly be handled by pdb2gmx. See below.

There is no way I can split this molecule into smaller subunits and thus define a number of residues-it wouldn't make sense to do so.


If you have a lot of repetition, I would think it would be quite easy to split it apart.

Yes in my .rtp file I have only defined each atom type once. To define each and every atom in my one residue would mean defining 4284 atoms!


If you have a repeating structure, you have a polymer, so you can just decompose a repeat unit into a single .rtp entry. That's the entire purpose of pdb2gmx, we certainly wouldn't want to create an .rtp entry for every single possible protein either!

For more information, see here:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Polymers

I am having real trouble in creating topology files for my structure. At the moment, the only way I can do this is by using a tool in DL_POLY to create a field file and then manually change it to a .top file. This is really fiddely and I have a number of similar structures to do this for. I was hoping that I could do a similar step in Gromacs and get a .top file straight away-even if it means a bit more work setting it up.

Is there any hope or is pdb2gmx simply not designed to work for this sort of system?


You can certainly use pdb2gmx, it is intended to be versatile so it can be used with any repeating structure of monomers, homogenous (like a repeating polymer) or heterogenous (like a protein). See the link above.

-Justin

Thanks

Jenny


Quoting "Justin A. Lemkul" <[email protected]>:

Quoting Jennifer Williams <[email protected]>:


Hello

I am studying a mesoporous silica for which there is no topology in
gromacs-to try to automate the process of generating a topology file
(x2top doesn?t work), I am using pdb2gmx (or rather trying to).

I have parameters for my silica structure and have added a new section
for my molecule to the .rtp file, .atp file, atommass.dat,
atom_nom.dbl, nb.itp and bon.itp files.

The problem is that when I use my .pdb file to generate a topology,
pdb2gmx checks for duplicates and removes almost all of my atoms. It
leaves only one of each type. I should have a few hundred of each atom
type?here is the output from pdb2gmx?

Analyzing pdb file
There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 1 residues with 4284 atoms
   chain  #res #atoms
   1 ' '     1   4284
All occupancies are one

All ok up to here?and then?.

Processing chain 1 (4284 atoms, 1 residues)
There are 552 donors and 2580 acceptors
There are 1603 hydrogen bonds
Checking for duplicate atoms....
Now there are 4 atoms. Deleted 4280 duplicates.

Can anyone explain why this is happening? ?none of my atoms have the
same coordinates. Is there a file that I have forgotten to alter?  Is
there is fix to turn off the checking of duplicate atoms? I don?t want
any of my atoms to be deleted!

You have all of your atoms defined within one residue. I'm assuming your .rtp entry contains the definition of a single repeat unit, so each monomer should be a separate residue. The coordinates don't matter, it's because within each residue, you have the same atom names, so pdb2gmx removes them when it finds
them.


Below I paste an extract of my pdb file?


I'm assuming you'll have to probably reconstruct this file to re-organize the atoms to define continuous residues. It appears they are grouped by atom name,
which is probably not what you want.

-Justin

CRYST1   46.421   43.630   75.838  90.00  90.00 120.00 P 1           1
ATOM 1 SI MCM 1 -21.090 -1.951 -29.596 1.00 0.00 SI ATOM 2 SI MCM 1 -21.090 -1.951 -10.636 1.00 0.00 SI
??..
ATOM 1153 O MCM 1 20.602 -18.404 -20.904 1.00 0.00 O ATOM 1154 O MCM 1 20.602 -18.404 -1.945 1.00 0.00 O
?
ATOM   3181  OH   MCM   1      -6.620 -18.769 -32.169  1.00  0.00
ATOM   3182  OH   MCM   1      -6.620 -18.769 -13.210  1.00  0.00
.....
ATOM 3733 H MCM 1 -6.674 -18.381 -33.035 1.00 0.00 H ATOM 3734 H MCM 1 -6.616 -18.600 -14.144 1.00 0.00 H

Any advice appreciated,

Thanks in advance



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