Francesco Pietra wrote:
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <[email protected]> wrote:

Francesco Pietra wrote:
Failed to specify that both the DPPC bilayer and the box of water are
from equilibrated systems in MARTIN web, while the protein was Amber
minimized (and MD) before generating the CG.

I have tried the cg protein alone

genbox -cp my.pdb -box 15 -o my.gro

Again I ask why you are using SPC as the solvent.  If you indeed want to use
the MARTINI CG water representation, you must pass its configuration
explicitly to the -cs flag.  Otherwise, the default (spc216.gro) is used.

The water that I set around the extracellular part of the protein was
equilibrated cg water (by just multiplying the box furnished on
MARTINI). In relation to the command above, I don't understand your
remark, simply because there is no water at all, both in the input
.pdb and output.gro. This is true for my previous post, too.


Oops, my mistake. I forgot that -cs was optional, and not taken as default :) Never mind that comment.


Are you defining the protein's position in the box before solvation?  Using
editconf -c is your friend.

I did present work before getting your mail. Curiously, gmail now
places your mail in spam. Luckily I noticed that.
A point I have to pay much attention to - for a possible major mistake
in my procedure - is your "before solvation". I assumed no solvation
at all.



grompp -f em.mdp -c my.gro -p my.top -o topol.tpr

mdrun -v -s topol.tpr

steepest descents converged to machine precision but not to the
requested Fmax < 2000

Pot Ener 7.1e+08
Max force 6.1e+10 on atom 983
Norm of force 2.5e+11

confout.gro shows that one of the subunits has been displaced from the
multimer (apparently both intact) There is a long bond between the
displaced subunit and the rest of the multimer, very closely to the
atom 983 of max force, located in the pore region. I have scarce
experience with gromacs yet, hope that this suggests remedies. I used
a crude version of em.mdp.

Well, there are several potential problems.  One is the box size (as I
mentioned in my last message).  The other question is whether or not the
conversion from atomistic to CG was done correctly.  I know I have mentioned
the problems with the MARTINI script a number of times, and perhaps this has
also come up in our discussions before, but do check that the starting CG
coordinates make sense.

The cg protein model superimposes nicely to the full-atom model. The
dimensions I gave in my previous mail were DPPC and W inclusive but
"-box 15" is still to small. The protein might have seen its neighbor.


Then that's certainly the first problem to fix. This is why I generally use editconf for defining the box (and why I keep recommending it). For a simple protein in water, using a command like:

editconf -c -d 1.0

will define a suitably-sized box so that you don't have to guess at the box dimensions. There is no such option with genbox.

Beyond that, try an in vacuo minimization of your protein and see what
happens there.

Do you mean without setting "-box"? I got confused about that, I
thought to have vacum around the protein (or the protein+DPPC+W of
previous mail) with


You can disregard that comment, I had assumed from reading the earlier post that you had solvated the structure. If the protein does not minimize by itself (hence, in vacuo) then perhaps your issue comes from your box dimensions. Seems most likely at this point.

I don't think you want a vacuum around your system. That's the whole point of PBC is it not - to avoid boundary conditions and "droplet" formation? What you want to do is assign a box that actually fits your system :)

-Justin

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MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
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