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Hi all.

I'm working with gromacs 4.0.5 in amber99 force field. I have two questions:

1. The protein part of my complex (trna+protein) consists of 870 aminoacids and two atoms of Zn. The question is - whether I have to create an index file, which will unit aminoacids and Zn in one "protein" or not? If not - whether those Zn will be stable during dynamics or they will escape from the structure in the water?

Index files create artificial groupings for MD algorithms or analysis tools, they don't have any direct effect on the physics. The Zn will be stable if you have constructed a reasonable physical model of a stable Zn complex. Often this is hard to do with an MM force field. Consult the literature - Zn+na has surely been done lots of times.

2. One of the goals of my work is studing of aminoacyl-adenylat behavior:

look, when I added aminoacid to adenyn through O2' in hyperchem and then created topology everything was fine untill I get to dynamics (even steep and gradient)... results I saw were very bad, aminoacid flied away from adenyn...I thought gromacs doesn't see this bond between aminoacid and nucleotide...saw I created a new topology for it!

If it flies away, then the physics is such that it doesn't want to be nearby. Whatever you did in hyperchem will have nothing to do with whether you generated a topology with a covalently bound complex. That depends on your use of pdb2gmx and/or subsequent manipulation of the .top file.

It represents both elements (aa and nucleotide) as a one. And I have written a new bond in ff...bon.itp . This is examples of my work - fragments of a) .rtp, b) .hdb, c) ff..bon.itp:

I can't make any sense of this because you've not described your objective well enough. Is there a covalent bond between two moieties, or what? If so, where? Upload a screenshot from hyperchem if suitable.

a)[ RA3 ]

[ atoms ]

N amber99_39 0.05770 1

H9 amber99_24 0.22720 2

CA amber99_11 -0.00540 3

HA amber99_28 0.10930 4

CB amber99_11 0.31960 5

HB amber99_18 -0.02210 6

CG1 amber99_11 -0.31290 7

HG11 amber99_18 0.07350 8

HG12 amber99_18 0.07350 9

HG13 amber99_18 0.07350 10

CG2 amber99_11 -0.31290 11

HG21 amber99_18 0.07350 12

HG22 amber99_18 0.07350 13

HG23 amber99_18 0.07350 14

C amber99_2 0.61630 15

O amber99_41 -0.57220 16

P amber99_46 1.16620 17

O1P amber99_45 -0.77600 18

O2P amber99_45 -0.77600 19

O5' amber99_44 -0.49890 20

C5' amber99_11 0.05580 21

H5'1 amber99_19 0.06790 22

H5'2 amber99_19 0.06790 23

C4' amber99_11 0.10650 24

H4' amber99_19 0.11740 25

O4' amber99_44 -0.35480 26

C1' amber99_11 0.03940 27

H1' amber99_20 0.20070 28

N9 amber99_40 -0.02510 29

C8 amber99_6 0.20060 30

H8 amber99_24 0.15530 31

N7 amber99_36 -0.60730 32

C5 amber99_4 0.05150 33

C6 amber99_3 0.70090 34

N6 amber99_38 -0.90190 35

H61 amber99_17 0.41150 36

H62 amber99_17 0.41150 37

N1 amber99_37 -0.76150 38

C2 amber99_9 0.58750 39

N3 amber99_37 -0.69970 40

C4 amber99_4 0.30530 41

C3' amber99_11 0.20220 42

H3' amber99_19 0.06150 43

C2' amber99_11 0.06700 44

H2'1 amber99_19 0.09720 45

O2' amber99_44 -0.61390 46

HO'2 amber99_25 0.41860 47

O3' amber99_43 -0.65410 48

H1 amber99_17 0.22720 49

H2 amber99_17 0.22720 50

H3 amber99_17 0.22720 51

[ bonds ]

P O1P

P O2P

P O5'

O5' C5'

C5' H5'1

C5' H5'2

C5' C4'

C4' H4'

C4' O4'

C4' C3'

O4' C1'

C1' H1'

C1' N9

C1' C2'

N9 C8

N9 C4

C8 H8

C8 N7

N7 C5

C5 C6

C5 C4

C6 N6

C6 N1

N6 H61

N6 H62

N1 C2

C2 H9

C2 N3

N3 C4

C3' H3'

C3' C2'

C3' O3'

C2' H2'1

C2' O2'

O3' HO'2

O2' C

-O3' P

N H1

N H2

N H3

N CA

CA HA

CA CB

CA C

CB HB

CB CG1

CB CG2

CG1 HG11

CG1 HG12

CG1 HG13

CG2 HG21

CG2 HG22

CG2 HG23

C O

C +N

[ dihedrals ]

O4' C1' N9 C4 proper_X_CT_N*_X

C1' N9 C8 H8 proper_X_CK_N*_X

C1' N9 C8 N7 proper_X_CK_N*_X

C1' N9 C4 C5 proper_X_CB_N*_X

C1' N9 C4 N3 proper_X_CB_N*_X

H1' C1' N9 C8 proper_X_CT_N*_X

H1' C1' N9 C4 proper_X_CT_N*_X

C8 N9 C4 C5 proper_X_CB_N*_X

C8 N9 C4 N3 proper_X_CB_N*_X

C5 C6 N1 C2 proper_X_CA_NC_X

N6 C6 N1 C2 proper_X_CA_NC_X

N1 C2 N3 C4 proper_X_CQ_NC_X

H9 C2 N3 C4 proper_X_CQ_NC_X

H8 C8 N7 C5 proper_X_CK_NB_X

N9 C8 N7 C5 proper_X_CK_NB_X

H62 N6 C6 N1 proper_X_CA_N2_X

H61 N6 C6 N1 proper_X_CA_N2_X

C5 C6 N6 H61 proper_X_CA_N2_X

C5 C6 N6 H62 proper_X_CA_N2_X

H8 C8 N9 C4 proper_X_CK_N*_X

N7 C8 N9 C4 proper_X_CK_N*_X

O5' C5' C4' H4' proper_H_CT_CT_O

H5'1 C5' C4' O4' proper_H_CT_CT_O

H5'2 C5' C4' O4' proper_H_CT_CT_O

O4' C4' C3' H3' proper_H_CT_CT_O

O4' C1' C2' H2'1 proper_H_CT_CT_O

C2' O2' C CA proper_H_CT_CT_O

CA C +N +H backbone_prop_1

O C +N +H backbone_prop_2

CA C +N +CA backbone_prop_1

O C +N +CA backbone_prop_1

[ impropers ]

C4 C8 N9 C1' nucleic_imp_10

C6 H61 N6 H62

N9 N7 C8 H8

N1 N3 C2 H9 nucleic_imp_11

C5 N6 C6 N1 nucleic_imp_11

CA +N C O

b)RA3 14

2 6 H5' C5' O5' C4'

1 5 H4' C4' C5' O4' C3'

1 5 H1' C1' O4' N9 C2'

1 1 H8 C8 N9 N7

2 3 H6 N6 C6 C5

1 1 H9 C2 N1 N3

1 5 H3' C3' C4' C2' O3'

1 5 H2'1 C2' C1' C3' O2'

1 2 HO'2 O3' C3' C4'

3 4 H N CA CB

1 5 HA CA N CB C

1 5 HB CB CA CG1 CG2

3 4 HG1 CG1 CB CA

3 4 HG2 CG2 CB CA

c)CT OS C 1 109.500 502.080 ;

(

amber99_11 12.01000 ; CT sp3 aliphatic C/

amber99_44 16.00000 ; OS ether and ester oxygen/

amber99_2 12.01000 ; C sp2 C carbonyl group/)

The problem is that, when I tried molecule of aminoacyladenylate in dynamics - everything is ok. But in complex there a lot of warnings and errors with pdb2gmx topology creating. First of all, when I did my first efforts I described above ("when I added aminoacid to adenyn through O2' in hyperchem and then created topology everything was fine untill I get to dynamics") I had atom name O2 in RC and RU (cytozine, uracyl) in pdb file and had no problems, but now gromacs couldn't find it, and I saw that in .rtp it has name "O"...ok, I changed all O2 in cytozynes and uracyls...gromacs is satisfied with but it is an error in aa

No !random acid! it depends on time I run pdb2gmx, every time another atom not found while adding hydrogens. I'm sure that atom names corresponds to each other in pdb and in hdb or rtp base...If I make a little changes in coordinates of this atom - other atom in some acid is bad...and so on, untill I have got an error

Source code file: pgutil.c, line: 87

Fatal error: atom N not found in residue -1072258112 while adding impropers (I eve can't find this atom). -missing - is ok. But on the stage of grompp I got an error "no default angle", without any explanations...

It's all too confused, sorry :-)

Mark
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