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    Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:06:30 -0500
    From: [email protected]
Reply-To: [email protected]
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep
      To: "Justin A. Lemkul" <[email protected]>

I tried to run minimization step and I got the following error:
Steepest Descents:
    Tolerance (Fmax)   =  1.00000e+01
    Number of steps    =        25000
Step=    1, Dmax= 1.0e-02 nm, Epot=  1.57470e+09 Fmax= 2.12566e+11, atom= 4973
Step=    2, Dmax= 1.2e-02 nm, Epot=  2.42785e+08 Fmax= 2.02821e+10, atom= 4985
Step=    3, Dmax= 1.4e-02 nm, Epot=  6.83525e+07 Fmax= 2.24629e+09, atom= 4973
Step=    4, Dmax= 1.7e-02 nm, Epot=  1.36192e+07 Fmax= 2.34481e+08, atom= 4985
Step=    5, Dmax= 2.1e-02 nm, Epot=  3.37948e+06 Fmax= 2.50839e+07, atom= 4973
Step=    6, Dmax= 2.5e-02 nm, Epot=  9.58580e+05 Fmax= 2.79175e+06, atom= 1321
Step=    7, Dmax= 3.0e-02 nm, Epot=  2.98861e+05 Fmax= 3.83032e+06, atom= 4973
Step=    8, Dmax= 3.6e-02 nm, Epot=  2.15478e+05 Fmax= 5.79850e+05, atom= 4973
Step=    9, Dmax= 4.3e-02 nm, Epot=  7.16581e+04 Fmax= 1.12895e+06, atom= 4973
Step=   10, Dmax= 5.2e-02 nm, Epot=  4.39860e+04 Fmax= 7.57820e+04, atom= 101

t = 0.022 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 101 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.

Back Off! I just backed up step11b.pdb to ./#step11b.pdb.6#

Back Off! I just backed up step11c.pdb to ./#step11c.pdb.6#
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   11, Dmax= 6.2e-02 nm, Epot= -1.94430e+04 Fmax= 7.60249e+04, atom= 102
Step=   12, Dmax= 7.4e-02 nm, Epot= -2.29926e+04 Fmax= 3.21409e+05, atom= 4917

t = 0.026 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 4917 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.

Back Off! I just backed up step13b.pdb to ./#step13b.pdb.6#

Back Off! I just backed up step13c.pdb to ./#step13c.pdb.6#
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   14, Dmax= 4.5e-02 nm, Epot= -2.80812e+04 Fmax= 1.42056e+04, atom= 9577
Step=   15, Dmax= 5.3e-02 nm, Epot= -3.28009e+04 Fmax= 1.37135e+05, atom= 4893

t = 0.032 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 4893 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.

Back Off! I just backed up step16b.pdb to ./#step16b.pdb.6#

Back Off! I just backed up step16c.pdb to ./#step16c.pdb.6#
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   16, Dmax= 6.4e-02 nm, Epot= -3.72070e+04 Fmax= 2.01112e+04, atom= 1217

t = 0.034 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 4917 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.

Back Off! I just backed up step17b.pdb to ./#step17b.pdb.2#

Back Off! I just backed up step17c.pdb to ./#step17c.pdb.2#
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   33, Dmax= 1.2e-06 nm, Epot= -1.10597e+04 Fmax= 1.29469e+06, atom= 4893
Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.
Converged to machine precision,
but not to the requested precision Fmax < 10

Double precision normally gives you higher accuracy.
You might need to increase your constraint accuracy, or turn
off constraints alltogether (set constraints = none in mdp file)

writing lowest energy coordinates.

Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 34 steps,
but did not reach the requested Fmax < 10.
Potential Energy  = -3.7206969e+04
Maximum force     =  2.0111207e+04 on atom 1217
Norm of force     =  6.9283209e+02

I don't understand constraints I need to turn off, since I haven't
mentioned any in my grompp file.

-Nisha



[email protected] wrote:
Hi,

I am trying to run a simulation with 1360 Tip4p water molecules and one methane molecule (Box size: 35.500 35.3371 35.500 and Total 5541 atoms) but I am getting the error:

t = 0.000 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 5433 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.


Have you done sufficient energy minimization?  General information can
be found within the wiki pages of the Gromacs site, i.e.:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#LINCS.2fSETTLE.2fSHAKE_warnings

-Justin

Here is my grompp. file :


; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS =
integrator               = md
; start time and timestep in ps =
tinit                    = 0.0
dt                       = 0.002
nsteps                   = 25000
; number of steps for center of mass motion removal =
nstcomm                  = 1

ENERGY MINIMIZATION OPTIONS
emtol                    = 10000
emstep                   = 0.01

; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS =
; Output frequency for coords (x), velocities (v) and forces (f) =
nstxout                  = 1000
nstvout                  = 1000
nstfout                  = 0
; Output frequency for energies to log file and energy file =
nstlog                   = 0
nstenergy                = 100
; Output frequency and precision for xtc file =
nstxtcout                = 100
xtc_precision            = 1000
; This selects the subset of atoms for the xtc file. =
; Only the first group gets written out, it does not make sense =
; to have multiple groups. By default all atoms will be written =
xtc_grps                 =
; Selection of energy groups =
energygrps               = CH4 SOL


; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS =
; nblist update frequency =
nstlist                  = 1.0
; ns algorithm (simple or grid) =
ns_type                  = grid
; nblist cut-off         =
rlist                    = 1.0

; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW =
; Method for doing electrostatics =
coulomb_type             = pme
rcoulomb_switch          = 0
rcoulomb                 = 1.0
; Dielectric constant (DC) for cut-off or DC of reaction field =
epsilon_r                = 1.0
epsilon_rf               = 0
; Method for doing Van der Waals =
vdw_type                 = Cut-off
; cut-off lengths        =
rvdw_switch              = 0
rvdw                     = 1.0
dispcorr                 = enerpres

; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS =
; Temperature coupling   =
tcoupl                   = v-rescale
; Groups to couple separately =
tc-grps                  = system
; Time constant (ps) and reference temperature (K) =
tau_t                    = 0.1
ref_t                    = 300

; Pressure coupling      =
Pcoupl                   = Berendsen
; Time constant (ps), compressibility (1/bar) and reference P (bar) =
tau_p                    = 1.0
compressibility          = 4.6e-5
ref_p                    = 1


; GENERATE VELOCITIES FOR STARTUP RUN =
gen_vel                  = yes
gen_temp                 = 300
gen_seed                 = 171533

I am new to this, so any inputs would be appreciated.

Thanks

Nisha


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Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
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