Jack Shultz wrote:
Well some of the problems in the log relate to unresolved exceptions processing the ligands, those ligands are skipped. But I should probably just test the receptors seperate from the workflow and merged ligands. I will check this list provided by Tsjerk. Possibly the numbering is off. Anyway its the structures that need a little work.
6. there should be no atoms in residues that are not listed in the
building block entry, except possibly for hydrogen atoms, which can be
stripped using the -ignh flag
Currently I use -ignh, should I see what happens when I remove this option? Will that reveal innappropriate atoms that I should remove?

Removing -ignh implies that all hydrogen atoms are present and named according to the specifics of the building blocks. It's not a useful diagnostic for missing or "inappropriate" atoms. What is of great concern (as Tsjerk pointed out) is the 3-nm bond identified by pdb2gmx. Is there a missing loop in the protein?

-Justin

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    On 1/10/10 9:47 PM, Jack Shultz wrote:

        Thanks Justin,
        I went back to the original pdb files. These were conformations
        of the
        same protein derived from molecular dynamics simulations
        performed by
        Andrey.
        What I intially attempted was preping the structures using
        tleap, hoping
        to paint in missing atoms for residues. Then use this to replace


    Well, it seems that you may be hoping for too much :)  Your log file
    shows a whole bunch of failures that look to be related to some
    early processing of your structure, and other warnings about close
    contacts detected in tleap.

    I think you may need to start with an actual intact structure, or
    else coax your preparation steps to make this happen.  I am not too
    familiar with tleap and sleap, do they magically fix missing atoms?

    -Justin

        non-standard residues
        sed s/PRO\ A\ \ \ 1/NPROA\ \ \ 1/g fzd2_md7-8_c6_cc.pdb | sed
        s/PRO\ B\
        \ \ 1/NPROB\ \ \ 1/g | sed s/PHE\ A\ \ 99/CPHEA\ \ 99/g | sed
        s/PHE\ B\
        \ 99/CPHEB\ \ 99/g | sed s/O\ \ \ CPHE/OC1\ CPHE/g | sed s/OXT\
        CPHE/OC2\ CPHE/g | sed s/HIS\ /HID\ /g | sed s/LYS\ /LYP\ /g | sed
        s/CYS\ /CYN\ /g > protein2.pdb
        Then fixed the nterminal residue name. Finally replaced all CYS
        to CYS2
        I went back and did the same thing except for tleap. It pdb2gmx
        seems to
        process these files without needing the tleap step.
        Still I see some of the same lincs errors.
        rms 10.669050, max 173.182678 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
        rms 10.669803, max 173.177811 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
        rms 10.670179, max 173.175400 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
        rms 10.670368, max 173.174149 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
        rms 10.670460, max 173.173553 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
        rms 10.670508, max 173.173141 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
        rms 10.670531, max 173.173035 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
        rms 10.670543, max 173.172958 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
        rms 10.670549, max 173.172928 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
        rms 10.670552, max 173.172913 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
        rms 10.670554, max 173.172913 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
        rms 10.670554, max 173.172913 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
        ATOM   1857  CA  HIE   120      43.362  28.084  25.727  1.00  0.00
        ATOM   1858  HA  HIE   120      43.677  27.135  25.748  1.00  0.00
        ATOM   1859  CB  HIE   120      42.112  28.226  24.788  1.00  0.00
        also this atom consistently has a very high Fmax
        Step=    3, Dmax= 1.4e-02 nm, Epot=  1.45860e+10 Fmax= 2.82224e+12,
        atom= 19392
        Step=    4, Dmax= 7.2e-03 nm, Epot=  1.45396e+10 Fmax= 2.82207e+12,
        atom= 19392
        Step=    5, Dmax= 3.6e-03 nm, Epot=  1.45106e+10 Fmax= 2.82194e+12,
        atom= 19392
        Step=    6, Dmax= 1.8e-03 nm, Epot=  1.44953e+10 Fmax= 2.82181e+12,
        atom= 19392
        Step=    7, Dmax= 9.0e-04 nm, Epot=  1.44887e+10 Fmax= 2.82196e+12,
        atom= 19392
        Step=    8, Dmax= 4.5e-04 nm, Epot=  1.44850e+10 Fmax= 2.82196e+12,
        atom= 19392
        Step=    9, Dmax= 2.2e-04 nm, Epot=  1.44832e+10 Fmax= 2.82196e+12,
        atom= 19392
        Step=   10, Dmax= 1.1e-04 nm, Epot=  1.44822e+10 Fmax= 2.82196e+12,
        atom= 19392
        Step=   11, Dmax= 5.6e-05 nm, Epot=  1.44818e+10 Fmax= 2.82196e+12,
        atom= 19392
        Step=   12, Dmax= 2.8e-05 nm, Epot=  1.44815e+10 Fmax= 2.82196e+12,
        atom= 19392
        Step=   13, Dmax= 1.4e-05 nm, Epot=  1.44814e+10 Fmax= 2.82196e+12,
        atom= 19392
        Its not clear to me what we should do to correct this
        structures...maybe
        Andrey has some input.
        http://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/em_restrained_rcs_mdrun2.txt
        On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:



           On 1/10/10 5:18 PM, Jack Shultz wrote:

               I am trying to get this workflow opperational. However, my
               systems are
               getting unstable. I have preped two mdp files: 1) one for
               restrained 2)
               unrestrained. LINCS errors appear for restrained and
               unrestrained has
               infinite energy appearing.
http://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/_em_restrained_rcs_mdrun.txt_

<http://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/em_restrained_rcs_mdrun.txt>
               __


           This log file shows several "long bond" warnings, which may
        be the
           root of your problem.  See here:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#Long_bonds_and.2for_missing_atoms

           Since your minimization is failing immediately, there is
        something
           physically unreasonable about your structure, such that EM cannot
           resolve the problem. Note, too, that one of the long bond
        warnings
           pertained to atom 1668, which is the location of the first LINCS
           warning.  Coincidence?  Not likely.  Re-examine the starting
           structure and figure out if anything is missing or poorly
           reconstructed (e.g., from initially missing atoms).


               This is where I get the LINCS Warnings
               Step -1, time -0.001 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
               relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
               rms 0.461520, max 14.428611 (between atoms 1668 and 1669)
               bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
               atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
               Steepest Descents:
                   Tolerance (Fmax)   =  1.00000e+04
                   Number of steps    =          100
               Warning: 1-4 interaction between 1658 and 1672 at
        distance 2.655
               which
               is larger than the 1-4 table size 2.400 nm
               These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
               This usually means your system is exploding,
               if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
               or with user tables increase the table size
               Step=    0, Dmax= 1.0e-02 nm, Epot=  1.09364e+09 Fmax=
        2.21154e+11,
               atom= 3292
               Step 1, time 0.001 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
               relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
               rms 0.680509, max 22.293625 (between atoms 1668 and 1670)
               bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
               atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
               What is a reasonable increase in table-extension. Is this a
               mis-leading
               suggestion?


           You should not adjust the table-extension.  The other part of the
           error message is what you need to pay attention to ("your
        system is
           exploding").

           -Justin

               Here is the log from the unrestrained minimization.
               http://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/_em_rcs_mdrun.txt_

               <http://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/em_rcs_mdrun.txt>
               Here is a zip archive containing the working directory
        for this
               minimization. Its about 428 kb
http://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/rcs_ga_run_10_bt_Fzd2-MD7-MD8-7.zip_lig_24205_ChemDiv_5754-2873_ts_1263004110202172000.zip

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