Amir Marcovitz wrote:
Thank you Justin,
actually, i have two parallel rigid plates that are free to move towards each other on the Y-axis (i used position restrain on Y and Z axes) later on i will umbrella sampling to obtain the plate-plate PMF at various distances from each other (thanks a lot for the helpful tutorial!) so i will try bond type 6 as you suggested. up until now i observed , especially during the the NPT run ,that the atoms are fluctuating , and if the time step was 0.002psec or even 0.001 psec the system was very un-robust and the simulation explodes. (that is my main concern and the reason for my previous post) do you think bond type 6 will settle this?

Not likely. If your system is blowing up that means there is something physically unrealistic about it (insufficient EM or equilibration, inappropriate parameters or .mdp settings, etc). There's tons of useful information on the Gromacs site and in the list archive to help you. Otherwise you'll have to provide substantially more information regarding all the points I raised above to get any useful advice.

-Justin

anyway, thanks a lot for the quick reply!
Amir

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    Amir Marcovitz wrote:

        Hi,
         i'm simulating a surface in water and ions which is composed of
        6X6 Carbon atoms arranged on a 2-d lattice. (using ffamber99)
        i want to keep the spacing between C-C neighbouring atoms at
        0.34 Angstrom (or some other spacing of choice..), and to
        maintain the surface rigid and planar
         for that i added to the [  bonds ] section at the topology file
        c0 values and force constants as following:
         [ bonds ]
; ai aj funct c0 c1 c2 c3
           1     2     1  3.400000e-01 3.744680e+05
           1     7     1  3.400000e-01 3.744680e+05
           2     3     1  3.400000e-01 3.744680e+05
        ..
        and so on..
         and similarly  added 90 and 180 degrees bond angle constrains
        between triads of atoms in the surface according to their location.
         the thing is , i'm affraid my constraint of c0 of 3.4 Angst. is
        in some conflict with the definition of C-C bond length which is
        defined somewhere in the amber files (if i'm turning the
        constraint on co off the atoms approach each other and the
        spacing is lost)
         my questions are:
        a) do you think i should define a new dummy atom? and in which
        files should it be done? - i'm asking because i didn't find a
        clear answer in the manual
        b) is there any other bond function  (what number?) which may
        ignore the definition of the C-C length and treat only the c0
        constraint?


    Two options I can think of:

    1. Why not position restrain your carbon lattices to parallel planes?
    2. Use bond type 6 to define a harmonic potential between the atoms
    you want to restrain.  If the two lattices are part of the same
    molecultype definition (unclear from your post), then you can use
    distance restraints.  If they are separate molecules, however, you
    can't, and hence why bond type 6 is a viable option.

    -Justin


         if someone can answer or guide me to relevant sections in the
        manual i'll be most thankful!
        amir

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