On 2/03/2010 12:39 AM, Ran Friedman wrote:
Hi,

I would still argue that double precision is important.

Oh? The discussion of Table 4 of http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ct700301q (2008 GROMACS 4 JCTC paper) suggested to me that single-precision NVE could be done well in GROMACS. Am I missing something?

Mark

My comment on SHAKE was based on CHARMM - in Gromacs it indeed doesn't
matter for water.

Ran

Justin A. Lemkul wrote:


Berk Hess wrote:
Hi,

Shake is not relevant for water and also a time step of 2 fs should
be fine.
The cut-off's are the problem. You have a buffer size of 0.1 nm,
which is already smaller than 2 times the distance from the center of
geometry
of a water molecule to a hydrogen. You need some additional distance
for water diffusion. I would use a buffer of 0.25 to 0.3 nm.
You don't list you coulombtype setting. Use pme (or if you want
perfect energy
conservation: pme-switch), you can also use reaction-field-zero if
you really don't
want to use PME.
Then use nstlist=-1, run a short simulation and check in at the end
of your log file
that the neighbor list lifetime is somewhere between 5 and 20 steps.

We should have a wiki entry for such details. Maybe there is one, but
I was too lazy
to check or make one.

There was a basic NVE page; I have updated it based on your notes above:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/NVE

-Justin


Berk

  >  Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:16:36 +0100
  >  From: [email protected]
  >  To: [email protected]
  >  Subject: Re: [gmx-users] NVE of water
  >
  >  Hi Andrea,
  >  Did you use double precision? Also, I'd try a lower dt (say 1fs) and
  >  shake tolerance (maybe 1E-8).
  >  Good luck,
  >  Ran
  >
  >  Andrea wrote:
  >  >  Dear users,
  >  >
  >  >  for test purposes in order to set up a bigger system, I try to
run NVE
  >  >  simulations of SPC water, but the energy increases very
rapidely. My
  >  >  guess is that the cutoffs I use are not good for water. I that the
  >  >  case ( I would be grateful for a good reference for suitable SPC
water
  >  >  parameters) or do I miss something else?
  >  >  My parameter file for the NVE is:
  >  >
  >  >  title = NVE
  >  >  cpp = /lib/cpp
  >  >  integrator = md
  >  >  dt = 0.002 ; ps ! = 2 fs
  >  >  nsteps = 50000 ; total 100 ps
  >  >  nstxout = 5000
  >  >  nstvout = 5000
  >  >  nstxtcout = 0
  >  >  nstlog = 5000
  >  >  nstenergy = 5000
  >  >  nstlist = 10
  >  >  ns_type = grid
  >  >  rlist = 1.1
  >  >
  >  >  unconstrained-start = yes
  >  >  constraints = all-bonds
  >  >  constraint_algorithm = shake
  >  >  shake_tol = 0.0001
  >  >  ;VdW
  >  >  vdwtype = Switch
  >  >  rvdw = 1.0 ; rvdw+ (0.1:0.3)= rlist
  >  >  rvdw_switch = 0.9
  >  >  gen_vel = no ; yes
  >  >  gen_temp = 300
  >  >  gen_seed = -1
  >  >  ;Temperature coupling
  >  >  tc_grps = system
  >  >  tcoupl = no ;nose-hoover
  >  >  tau_t = 0.1
  >  >  ref_t = 300
  >  >  ;Pressure coupling
  >  >  pcoupl = no
  >  >  optimize_fft = yes
  >  >
  >  >  Any suggesions are really welcome.
  >  >
  >  >  Thank you.
  >  >
  >  >  Regards,
  >  >  Andrea Muntean
  >
  >
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