@ Erik:
Have you also tried the nose-hoover thermostat? Because with it the problem vanishes for me (even if i use pme).


Hi,
I have reported this problem to Bugzilla some months ago:

  http://bugzilla.gromacs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=378

I don't exactly know what the problem is, but it is definitely related
to the MKL FFTs, which can be seen by switching from PME to cutoff, and
the problem should go away.

I have reproduced this behavior on several computers, as I have written
in the bugzilla report.

/ Erik Brandt

tor 2010-03-11 klockan 01:34 +0100 skrev Mark Abraham:

On 11/03/2010 3:04 AM, Thomas Schlesier wrote:
Gromacs was compiled on a xeon (woodcrest). for the simulations i used
an old xeon (don't know what chip, but also 64bit system) and a i7.
Well, don't do that. IMO, dynamic linking should work in that kind of
scenario, but something is clearly broken.

About static / dynamic libraries:
I used there default settings. At the end of the configure command it
tells me the following:
* On most platforms you can save 10X space with dynamic libraries,
although the binaries might be less portable. Why not try --enable-shared?
So i think the libraries are static.
Your internal GROMACS linking is static, which you could change with
--enable-shared. You will need to kick the linker harder than that to
force it to link statically to system libraries also.

I tried Mark's suggestion and compiled a new version, where i change
'--with-fft=mkl' with '--enable-fft=fftpack' (the restr of the configure
command was the same then before). With that, the error didn't appear.
Does that mean that the linking to mkl did not work for mdrun, but
worked for mdrun_mpi (because there the temperature was right)?
Yep, that is strong evidence for my hypothesis. Either compile GROMACS
on the target execution system (even submit a cluster job for the
compilation!), or (if the former doesn't work) get the MKL documentation
and read it about how to enforce static linking. There may be some
cunning linker option for that, or you may need to explicitly cite the
static versions of the libraries. Or, get FFTW installed and link to
that. I have found near-negligible performance differences between MKL
and FFTW on my machine.

One thing for the temperature jump:
Temperature starts at around 300 K (from 'gen_temp') then goes in 1-2ps
up to around 425 K and then stays there. the simulation was 100ps long,
in the end i had an average value of about 425 K (from log file).

Here are the first 20ps from g_energy
0.000000 305.240509
1.000000 381.614166
2.000000 410.572906
3.000000 434.954956
4.000000 414.660400
5.000000 394.799591
6.000000 389.087128
7.000000 414.893982
8.000000 449.444183
9.000000 417.877472
10.000000 442.470306
11.000001 446.170258
12.000001 448.844666
13.000001 412.847473
14.000001 454.549744
15.000001 447.908478
16.000000 404.607422
17.000000 404.629944
18.000000 441.559448
19.000000 396.328400
20.000000 421.386017
That's broken all right!

Mark

and:
Energy Average RMSD Fluct. Drift Tot-Drift
----------------------------------------------------------------
Temperature 424.625 21.7645 21.6696 0.0703201 7.03215



On 10/03/2010 12:21 AM, Thomas Schlesier wrote:
Could anybody reproduce that error or has an idea what is happening?
Or i am alone with that problem?
Nothing looks obviously wrong, but it's hard to be sure in the absence
of information about your hardware. The most likely issue is some kind
of dynamically-linked library mismatch. This can happen if your
execution environment differs from your linking environment. Try forcing
linking to static versions of the libraries, which will prevent this.

Also try disabling things until you get sensible behaviour in all cases,
like --enable-fft=fftpack. That would reveal that the problem was with
linking to mkl.

Also 1-2ps is a bit too short to expect convergence of temperature -
check the plot of T against t with g_energy.

Mark

Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:11:45 +0100
From: Thomas Schlesier <[email protected]>
Subject: [gmx-users] problem with icc compiler
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed

Hi,
i observed the following problem. if i simulate water (spc or tip4p)
with gromacs 4.0.5 i get with v-rescale or berendsen thermostat the
wrong temperature (ref_t = 300K -> average around 425K, in about
1-2ps),
but only in serial, not in parallel runs.
non-water molecules or nose-hoover thermostat make no problems.
see also
http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-March/049248.html
for mdp and log file.

gromacs was compiled with the following comands:
and in the file 'configure' all '-lmkl' were deleted (don't ask me why,
i don't really understand that stuff, the command were from our
previous
phd student).

./configure CC="icc"
CPPFLAGS="-I/share/apps/intel/mkl/10.0.011/include"
LDFLAGS="-L/share/apps/intel/mkl/10.0.011/lib/em64t
-lmkl_solver_lp64_sequential -Wl,--start-group -lmkl_intel_lp64
-lmkl_sequential -lmkl_core -Wl,--end-group -lpthread" --with-fft=mkl
--prefix="/share/apps/gromacs/4.0.5"
make
make install
make clean
./configure CC="icc"
CPPFLAGS="-I/share/apps/intel/mkl/10.0.011/include"
LDFLAGS="-L/share/apps/intel/mkl/10.0.011/lib/em64t
-lmkl_solver_lp64_sequential -Wl,--start-group -lmkl_intel_lp64
-lmkl_sequential -lmkl_core -Wl,--end-group -lpthread" --with-fft=mkl
--prefix="/share/apps/gromacs/4.0.5" --enable-mpi --disable-nice
--program-suffix=_mpi
make mdrun
make install-mdrun

for gromacs 4.0.5 i used the icc 9.1.046 compiler.

i also tried gromacs 4.0.7 with icc 9.1.046 and icc 10.1.008 with spc
water, v-rescale thermostat.
-> serial: too high temperature 425K iso 300K
-> parallel: no problems
with non-water (mesitylene) i have no problem in serial.

the problem does not come from grompp because i can use same tpr-file
for serial and parallel runs with the above results.

if someone needs more informations about this please tell me.

greetings
thomas

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