On 26/03/2010 7:56 AM, Sikandar Mashayak wrote:
Thanks Mark for the explanation. Yeah, definitely I need to go through
the algorithms that GROMACS use.
As far Table approach is concerned, same simulation set up worked
without using Table.

Well, you've probably done it wrong, but we don't have enough information to say where...

Mark

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Mark Abraham <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 26/03/2010 7:07 AM, Sikandar Mashayak wrote:

        @ Xavier :: I am trying out table approach also. But I am facing
        some
        issues with it. To start with , as a test run, i use GROMACS
        provided
        table6-12.xvg table for LJ interactions. Using this table I am
        running
        water bulk simulations. In mdp file I specify to use PME for
        electrostatics and User for LJ by providing the table6-12.xvg
        file. But
        the simulation crashes with the notes ::t = 0.000 ps: Water molecule
        starting at atom 5363 can not be settled.
        Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.
        Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates


    Did it run without using tables?

    Mark

        On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Sikandar Mashayak
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

            @ Mark :: you said if the potential is never used then I
        dont have
            to worry about storing its value. Suppose I am replacing
        Coulombic
            interactions with something of its equivalent through new force
            field, and I dont store the potential due to it, will I
        still get
            the similar results in terms of structure (RDF). Of course I am
            assuming that new force can accurately replace the Coulombic
            interactions among the charged atoms.

            By just having correct forces acting on the atoms and not
        worrying
            about storing potential energies, will I still get same
        trajectory
            as with storing potential energies.

            thanks
            sikandar


            On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:45 AM, XAvier Periole
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:


                If your force is between "atom" pairs you might be
        better trying
                to give all
                of that as a tabulated potential ... no coding.


                On Mar 25, 2010, at 7:14 AM, Mark Abraham wrote:



                    ----- Original Message -----
                    From: Sikandar Mashayak <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
                    Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010 15:12
                    Subject: Re: [gmx-users] CG Force and Potential through
                    do_force()
                    To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>

                        well if I need to add it by myself, I am not
        very sure
                        in what variable to add it to. Like I said, I
        know to
                        add the force on the atom i do f[indxofatom][XX]=
                        forcevalue, where to potential value due to this
        force?


                    It's not easy. Look at how the generic kernel does
        it and
                    work you way back through the data structures.

                    Mark

                        On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Mark Abraham
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:


                        On 25/03/2010 2:42 PM, Sikandar Mashayak wrote:



                    Hi



                    I want to do Coarse-Grained simulation in Gromacs. I
        have
                    one CG force


                    formula, which I plan to implement by adding a short
        code in
                    do_force()


                    routine in Gromacs 4.0.7 source code.



                    After browsing through the do_force() code, I am now
                    familiar with data


                    structure relevant to add the new force. I mean, I can
                    specify new force


                    by adding to f[indx][XX] and so on.



                    But I am not very sure about potential, whether do I
        have to
                    explicitly


                    specify the potential on atoms due to this force or
        gromacs


                    automatically takes care of it by knowing the forces
        on each
                    atoms?




                    You will need to add that yourself if you want the
        reported
                    potential to be accurate. GROMACS uses the given
        parameters
                    in its inner loops to calculate energies and forces. The
                    former are not reverse-engineered from the latter.
        If the
                    potential is never used, however, then you can
        forget about
                    it...




                    Mark


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