Aswathy wrote:
Thanks for your  reply.

In this case reference (r57) is not the part of the channel. But it is a residue in the loop above the channel entry. Thats why I used pull_geometry=distance. Therefore I am pulling the ligand away from this reference.


So you are not pulling through the channel? Or you are pulling through the channel with respect to a single residue on one "side" of the structure? If your ligand ever crosses over this reference in any way, the reference distance will change sign and thus Tom is right, you should use "pull_geometry = position." With "distance," you can only ever have positive reference distances.

What are your .mdp settings during umbrella sampling?

-Justin

Thanks
-Aswathy

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Thomas Piggot <t.pig...@soton.ac.uk <mailto:t.pig...@soton.ac.uk>> wrote:

    Hi,

    If you defined the reference (r_57) as part of your channel then
    with pull_geometry=distance you will have problems as the distance
    between pull_group1 and pull_group0 becomes closer to zero and then
    the distance becomes positive again.

    I recently had this with my umbrella sampling simulations. Search
    for the discussion of things you can do to address this issue on the
    list. To stop this being a problem in the first place you should
    have used pull_geometry=position.

    Cheers

    Tom

    Aswathy wrote:

        Can any one help me please? I looking forward to hear from any
        of you.
        Thank you.


        On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Aswathy <ammasa...@gmail.com
        <mailto:ammasa...@gmail.com> <mailto:ammasa...@gmail.com
        <mailto:ammasa...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

           Ok i will explain you in detail.

            Initially i pulled the ligand through the protein channel ,
        using
           the given parameters.

           pull                     = umbrella
           pull_geometry            = distance
           pull_dim                 =  N N Y
           pull_start               = yes
           pull_nstxout             =  10
           pull_nstfout             =  10
           pull_ngroups             =  1
           pull_group0              =  r_57
           pull_group1              =  r_C1
           pull_rate1               =  0.01
           pull_k1                  =  1500

           Then I extracted the frames from the trajectory using the perl
           program provided with tutorial. COM distance I took as nearly
        0.12
           nm. (But sometimes I failed to obtain frames exactly at that
           interval, but took  nearly at 0.12). Each frame I used for
        Umbrella
           sampling for 1ns.
           Then I checked histograms for overlapping (Some histograms were
           entirely overlapped and I removed that from the list, where ever
           gaps i selected new frames and did sampling so that I can get an
           evenly distributed histograms , I know this will change the
        overall
           COM distribution but is there any other way to solve this?) .

           Finally once I obtained reasonably good overlapped histograms, I
           plotted PMF using g_wham. The plot  was a steeply increasing
           potential.  How can we get increased PMF even when the ligand is
           reached out of the channel?


Did I made any mistake any where , I am confused.

           Thank you.
           -Aswathy



           On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Jochen Hub
        <joc...@xray.bmc.uu.se <mailto:joc...@xray.bmc.uu.se>
           <mailto:joc...@xray.bmc.uu.se
        <mailto:joc...@xray.bmc.uu.se>>> wrote:

               Aswathy wrote:


                   Hi gromacs users,

                   I am using Gromacs 4.0.4 package. I am doing SMD of a
        ligand
                   transport through a channel.

                   I performed SMD and did umbrella sampling (Thanks to
        Justin
                   for his  tutorial). Extracted frames with a window
        spacing
                   interval  of ~0.12nm. and did 1ns sampling.
        Histograms are
                   with reasonabvle overlap. Then I used g_wham for plotting
                   PMF considering first 300ps as equilibration.

               Isn't SMD usually referred to pulling at some finite pulling
               speed? That would not be umbrella sampling.

               Anyway, you'll have to provide a lot more data to enable
        us to
               help you.

               Jochen




                   I am getting a plot , but potential is increasing
                   constantly. ie, PMF is not converged as mentioned the
                   tutorial? Do I need to extend the sampling ? or any other
                   reason?

                   Please help me.
                   Thank you.

                   -Aswathy



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