Oliver Grant wrote:
The force fields have to be compatible but this way works fine.


I guess that depends on what you mean by "works fine." If you mean that you can produce a stable simulation, then yes, it may "work," but I would question the underlying premise of combining different force fields. If, for example, you're using an AMBER force field for, say, a protein, and OPLS for a small molecule, then what you're doing is wrong. The combination rules required by both force fields are different, as are the underlying derivation schemes and quite possibly some more details I'm not thinking about at the moment.

I guess it all depends on what you mean (below) by "non amber force field" and how different it is from the actual requirements of the AMBER force field you're using. If this "non amber force field" was designed to be compatible with your chosen force field, and there was some suitable derivation scheme involved, then things will probably work. If you're mixing and matching parameter sets, be prepared for very tough questions from any reviewers who see your work.

-Justin

On 19 May 2010 12:50, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



    Oliver Grant wrote:

        Can you not run pdb2gmx for each of your molecules that you want
        separate force fields for? Then cat the gro files, renumber and
        include the molecule types as .itp files in the .top file as
        below. If I'm doing anything wrong please let me know! :)


    Combining different force fields into a single system completely
    invalidates it, so yes, I'd say you're doing something wrong :)

    -Justin


         ;
        ;    This is your topology file

        ;    "What If None Of Your Dreams Come True ?" (E. Costello)
        ;
        ; Include forcefield parameters
        #include "ffamber99sb.itp"

        [ atomtypes ]
        
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------from
        the top file of the non amber force field
;name bond_type mass charge ptype sigma epsilon
        CY            CY      0.0000  0.0000  A   3.39967e-01  4.57730e-01
        O              O      0.0000  0.0000  A   2.95992e-01  8.78640e-01
        HO            HO      0.0000  0.0000  A   0.00000e+00  0.00000e+00
        H1            H1      0.0000  0.0000  A   2.47135e-01  6.56888e-02
        O2            O2      0.0000  0.0000  A   2.95992e-01  8.78640e-01
        N              N      0.0000  0.0000  A   3.25000e-01  7.11280e-01
        H2            H2      0.0000  0.0000  A   2.29317e-01  6.56888e-02
        OY            OY      0.0000  0.0000  A   3.00001e-01  7.11280e-01
        HC            HC      0.0000  0.0000  A   2.64953e-01  6.56888e-02
        H              H      0.0000  0.0000  A   1.06908e-01  6.56888e-02
        C              C      0.0000  0.0000  A   3.39967e-01  3.59824e-01
        OS            OS      0.0000  0.0000  A   3.00001e-01  7.11280e-01
        CG            CG      0.0000  0.0000  A   3.39967e-01  4.57730e-01
        OH            OH      0.0000  0.0000  A   3.06647e-01  8.80314e-01

        #include
        
"protein.itp"------------------------------------------------------------------------------------from
        the top file of the amber force field, contains everything
        usually specified here under [molecule types].

        ; Include Position restraint file
        #ifdef POSRES
        #include "posre.itp"
        #endif

        #ifdef POSRES_CA
        #include "CA_posre.itp"
        #endif

        #include
        
"trisacc.itp"------------------------------------------------------------------------------------from
        the top file of the non amber force field, contains charges etc.

        ; Include Position restraint file
        #ifdef POSRES_trisacc
        #include "trisacc_posre.itp"
        #endif

        ; Include water topology
        #include "ffamber_tip3p.itp"

        #ifdef POSRES_WATER
        ; Position restraint for each water oxygen
        [ position_restraints ]
        ;  i funct       fcx        fcy        fcz
          1    1       1000       1000       1000
        #endif

        ; Include generic topology for ions
        #include "Na_amber99sb.itp"

        [ system ]
        ; Name
        Protein in water

        [ molecules ]
        ; Compound        #mols
        Protein_A           1
        trisacc            1
        SOL         10697
        Na          4



        2010/5/19 you zou <zou....@live.com <mailto:zou....@live.com>
        <mailto:zou....@live.com <mailto:zou....@live.com>>>


           Hi Justin,

           Thank you for your help, But when I run x2top command there
        is one
           error that is:
           "
           Can not find forcefield for atom C1-1 with 2 bonds
           Can not find forcefield for atom C4-4 with 2 bonds
           ...
           Program x2top, VERSION 4.0.5
           Source code file: x2top.c, line: 207

           Fatal error:
           Could only find a forcefield type for 6 out of 24 atoms"

           I don't know how can I adjust this error.
           I have one more question again, this command give me a top
        file, if
           I want gro file of this pdb (drug that has removed from
        drug-enzyme
           complex) how can I do that?

           you zou wrote:
           > Dear Users,
           >     > I have one question about Drug-Enzyme Complex,Similar
        to tutorial If I

           >
             want to use GROMOS96 43a1, I can use "Prodrg Beta version"
        for drug     > but If I want to use OPLS-AA/L all-atom force
        field I can use "Prodrg     > Beta version" server too, or not?

           No. You can't use two different force fields in one
        simulation system.



           > If I can't use this server, how can I make .gro file and
        .itp file for     > drug that remove from initial .pdb file?
           >
           There are several programs in the User Contributions from the
        website, x2top

           (which is distributed with Gromacs), or you can build the
        topology by hand. No     matter what you choose, you need a
        thorough understanding of the mechanics of     your chosen force
        field, methods of validation, and of course Chapter 5 in the

           Gromacs manual.


           Thanks


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