Moeed wrote:
Hello Justin,

I am trying to generate the top file for polyethylene chain using the
information from the archive: http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2009-March/040125.html. In the former post you said parameters in the I am referring to are not necessarily correct.

1- By parameters you mean the coordinates in pdb file? The residues in this link seem correct to me but I am not sure if the hdb file is correct.


The term "parameters" refers to atom types and charges. The example I created for the post above is based on what I believed to be plausible atom types and charges for alkyl groups, but I have never validated these items for use in polymers. The post was to be instructive only. Maybe the parameters are suitable, maybe they are not.

2- Could you please tell me how to generate a longer chain with the given residue types proposed in the above post.

ATOM      1  C1  EthB    1       1.000   1.540   0.000
ATOM      2  C2  EthB    1       2.456   2.041   0.000
ATOM      3  C1  Eth     2       2.456   3.581   0.000
ATOM      4  C2  Eth     2       3.912   4.083   0.000

ATOM      5  C1  EthE    3       3.912   5.623   0.000
ATOM      6  C2  EthE    3       5.368   6.124   0.000
END

Here I do not see hydrogen atoms. I have created a long chain with 100 monomer units using Ascalaph designer. However the file is not properly formatted. i.e atoms are not numbered and residue name is missing. I do not want to alter the file by hand. Can you guide me how I can build a long chain with the residues you proposed in the above post (including hydrogen atoms)

The residues I created assume that there are corresponding entries in the appropriate .hdb file, which I provided in the post you quote. As for creating a coordinate file:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/File_Formats/Coordinate_File#Sources


HETATM 1 C 1 2.739 2.554 -0.012 -0.390 C HETATM 2 H 1 2.736 3.644 -0.012 0.130 H HETATM 3 H 1 2.190 2.217 -0.893 0.130 H HETATM 4 H 1 2.190 2.217 0.868 0.130 H HETATM 5 C 2 4.155 1.993 -0.012 -0.260 C .
.
HETATM 291 H 97 72.086 -97.891 -0.012 0.130 H HETATM 292 H 97 70.558 -97.880 0.869 0.130 H HETATM 293 H 97 70.558 -97.880 -0.893 0.130 H 3- I have also an inquiry about the density of my solvent. One of the experts told me:

Best thing you can do is, make a NPT simulation (look for the right
compresibility) and look how much your density is off,if it's only a
little your fine.

I dont realize the statement "look how much your density is off"?
The desnity is approx. 71000 Kg/m3 (4molecuels per nm3). From NPT run I see the density is 577 Kg/m3. and the volume is 30 nm3 (values from g_energy). How can I make sure if density changes are reasonable?


You need experimentally-derived densities to compare your values. To what does 71000 kg/m^3 correspond? If that's your target value, you're nowhere close. For polyethylene, the density depends on the molecular weight and geometry, correct? The target value should depend upon what you're trying to model.

-Justin

  *Volume                     * 30.9568*   0.374111   0.204815

  Density (SI)                *577.914*    6.97804    3.80252

Energy Average RMSD Fluct. Drift Tot-Drift

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Temperature 297.366 12.086 11.4021 1.38812 13.884

Pressure (bar) -30.0299 746.524 745.665 -12.3992 -124.017

*Volume 30.9568 0.374111 0.204815 -0.108427 -1.08449*

**

*Density (SI) 577.914 6.97804 3.80252 2.02643 20.2684*

pV -55.9879 1393.39 1391.81 -22.9985 -230.031

#Surf*SurfTen 218.21 4871.45 4871.37 -9.30662 -93.0848

T-HEX 297.366 12.086 11.4021 1.38812 13.884

Lamb-HEX 1.00011 0.000588089 0.000561362 -6.07045e-05 -0.000607166

Heat Capacity Cv:      12.5027 J/mol K (factor = 0.0016519)

Isothermal Compressibility: 0.00011012 /bar

Adiabatic bulk modulus:        9080.99  bar

with mdp file:
 > ;        Pressure coupling:     Pressure coupling is not on
 > Pcoupl              =  berendsen
 > tau_p               =  0.5
 > compressibility     =  4.5e-5
 > ref_p               =  1.0


Thanks,


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Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
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