I recall seeing something online about how gromacs developers have decided to focus on increasing the overall speed and allowing generally large timesteps (via e.g. angle constraints) vs. implementing multiple timestepping (no mailing list ref. sorry). I agree that this is not a logically exclusive decision -- PME takes >20% of the time so if they were doing it only 1/2 as often then there is the possibility of a real speedup. Nevertheless, it would need to be tested and perhaps the developers have indeed run these tests -- I've simply not seen the results. One would think, though, that PME could nearly always be done less often than, for example, bonded interactions.

I agree with Erik that the work would be large, but I disagree that the benefits would be small -- although I suspect that neither of us has any data to support such claims :).

Unfortunately, the bottom line is that this is free software and if you want it then you can code it. Or at the very least, you should benchmark the benefits on NAMD and then submit an "enhancement" bugzilla.

Chris.


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The core developers have the answer for this one, but I can make an
educated guess:

Implementing it would mean a LOT of work and the rewards are small. The
latter because most particles will have rougly the same oscillation
period if one uses all-atom forcefields and turn on virtual sites and
constrains the bonds, hence the point of having multiple time steps is lost.

Vitaly Chaban skrev:
Chris,

An interesting question...

BTW, is there any philosophy of gromacs developers to avoid this
algorithm in the MD engine?

Vitaly




multiple timesteps are not possible as far as gromacs 4.0.7. NAMD can do this.


-- original message --

Is it possible to carry out  multiple time step  molecular
dynamics simulations
in Gromacs
4.0. versions ? Could you
please give me some information about this issue ?

Thank you very much for your attention.



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