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From: Moeed <lecie...@googlemail.com>
Date: Friday, August 27, 2010 2:21
Subject: [gmx-users] making index file
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org

> Hello Justin,
> 
> Please let me explain my naive procedure to make index file so that you can 
> make comment. I have created the top file for a single solvent molecule. Then 
> removed [system] , [molecule] directives as well as "#ffgmx.itp". The 
> [molecule type] is named 'solvent''. I got a sample itp file from a tutorial 
> and then copied the contents of this modified top file into the file with itp 
> extention and named it solvent.itp. Then I # included this itp file in 
> solute. top file and based on  solvated gro file added "solvent 1000" in 
> [molecule] directive of solute.top. solvated gro contains residues a,b,c for 
> solute and 'SOL' for the solvent.

That all sounds quite sensible, assuming your solvent is not water.

> then I issue the command : make_ndx -f solvated.gro -o solvated.ndx which 
> lists the residues :
 > 
> 0 System              : 30350 atoms
>   1 a                :    10 atoms
>   2 b                 :   330 atoms
>   3 c              :     10 atoms
>   4 SOL                 : 30000 atoms
> 
> I am not getting my default groups according to [moleculetype]. Am I missing 
> sth?  That I am only getting system index group is becase I am only using 
> user defined residues?

The default index groups rely on the residue names being looked up in a 
database of residue types (IIRC in share/top/aminoacids.dat). You'd have to 
tweak that for it to work in your case.

 > 
> > r1|r2|r3    
> 
> Merged two groups with OR: 
> Merged two groups with OR: 
> 
>   5 r_1_r_2_r_3         :   
> 
> is giving me 
> different directives for system, a, b, c, and SOL and one for 
>  r_1_r_2_r_3 in  solvated.ndx. I dont see what the last one is for?!

That's the one you created. You merged residues 1, 2 and 3 into one group. 
However you want to merge whole groups, so you want "1 | 2 | 3".

 > 
> Residues a, b and c belong to solute and should form one group since I want 
> to get interaction energy 

Maybe residues are equivalent to molecules in your case, but I suspect the 
above comment indicates at least some confusion somewhere. A group can have 
many molecules which can have many residues. Or one molecule with one residue. 
Or some random set of atoms. You choose :-)

> between solute and solvent. How can I create these two groups (to be included 
> in mdp file energy groups ). I searched the manual and archive list but never 
> found such details of creating index files. It seems it is something that 
> everyone knows! :) Please help me.. thanks.

 make_ndx has a tiny help facility which is a useful reminder of how to do some 
things. Even using it to write out the [ System ] group to an index file, and 
then manually making a [ Solute ] group from that in a text editor is really 
not hard (hint: it should probably have the numbers 1 to 350 and nothing else)

Mark

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