Did you do any form of equilibration prior to the production run? If so, what? In my experience, an incompletely (or improperly) equilibrated system that is passed to the P-R barostat can lead to undesired pressures. As long as there are no systematic influences on your pressure (i.e., trending up or down), then you've probably got a stable simulation, especially given the fluctuations.

-Justin

Sai Pooja wrote:
So, what should I aim for when running an NPT simulation?

Pooja

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Dallas Warren <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Is that really that surprising?

    You have variations of the order of 100s of bar and are looking for
    an average that is 1.0

    What you are observing is nothing out of the ordinary, from my
    experience and what others have discussed here on the emailing list.

    Catch ya,

    Dr. Dallas Warren

    Medicinal Chemistry and Drug Action

    Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Monash University
    381 Royal Parade, Parkville VIC 3010
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    *From:* [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Sai Pooja
    *Sent:* Wednesday, 8 September 2010 3:38 PM

    *To:* Discussion list for GROMACS users
    *Subject:* Re: [gmx-users] Alanine dipeptide simulations

    Hi

    Yes, the fluctuations are large but even the average pressure hasn't
    converged. Its close 2.5 bar. RMSD ~600 bar.

    Pooja

    On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Dallas Warren
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    See http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure for
    further details

    Catch ya,

    Dr. Dallas Warren

    Medicinal Chemistry and Drug Action

    Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Monash University
    381 Royal Parade, Parkville VIC 3010
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    *From:* [email protected]
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    [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Dallas Warren
    *Sent:* Wednesday, 8 September 2010 3:21 PM


    *To:* Discussion list for GROMACS users

    *Subject:* RE: [gmx-users] Alanine dipeptide simulations

    What pressure has it reached?

    Probably best graph the pressure versus time plot for the run and
    show that.


    I suspect what you are concerned about is the fact that with
    pressure coupling, the pressure can fluctuation from step to step,
    very widely, 100s atm is not out of the question.

    Catch ya,

    Dr. Dallas Warren

    Medicinal Chemistry and Drug Action

    Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Monash University
    381 Royal Parade, Parkville VIC 3010
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    *From:* [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Sai Pooja
    *Sent:* Wednesday, 8 September 2010 3:18 PM
    *To:* Discussion list for GROMACS users
    *Subject:* [gmx-users] Alanine dipeptide simulations

    Hi,



    I am running an npt simulation on alanine dipeptide in explicit
    solvent using charmm forcefield and tip3p.

    The pressure is set to 1bar and the barostat is Parrinello-Rahman.
    The simulation has been running for 45 ns and has not achieved the
    target average pressure of 1 bar.

    I don;t understand why is this the case.

    My mdp file:

    ; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
    integrator               = md
    dt                       = 0.002
    nsteps                   = 500000

    ; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS
    nstxout                  = 0                    ; No output, except
    for last frame (coordinates)
    nstvout                  = 0                    ; No output, except
    for last frame (velocities)
    nstfout                  = 0                    ; No output, except
    for last frame (forces)
    nstlog                   = 5000                ; Write every step to
    the log
    nstenergy                = 5000                    ; Write energies
    at every step
    xtc_grps                 = Protein SOL
    nstxtcout                = 5000                    ; Do not write a
    compressed trajectory
    energygrps               = Protein SOL  ; Write energy information
    separately for these groups

    ; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS
    nstlist                  = 5
    ns-type                  = Grid
    pbc                      = xyz
    rlist                    = 0.9

    ; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
    coulombtype              = PME
    fourierspacing           = 0.15
    rcoulomb                 = 0.9
    vdw-type                 = Cut-off
    rvdw                     = 1.0

    ; FFT grid size, when a value is 0 fourierspacing will be used =
    fourier_nx               = 0
    fourier_ny               = 0
    fourier_nz               = 0
    ; EWALD/PME/PPPM parameters =
    pme_order                = 4
    ewald_rtol               = 1e-05
    epsilon_surface          = 0
    optimize_fft             = no
    ; Temperature coupling
    tcoupl                   = nose-hoover
    tc-grps                  = Protein  Non-Protein
    tau_t                    = 0.2      0.2
    ref_t                    = 300      300

    ; Pressure coupling
    Pcoupl                   = Parrinello-Rahman
    Pcoupltype               = Isotropic
    tau_p                    = 1.0
    compressibility          = 4.5e-5
    ref_p                    = 1.0

    ; OPTIONS FOR BONDS
    constraints              = all-bonds


    Pooja




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