Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:
Hello,
To investigate the secondary structure I issued the do_dssp command as
follows:

 do_dssp_d_mpi -f AFPIII_Ih0001_81_93_NpT265.xtc -s
AFPIII_Ih0001_81_93_NpT265_1.tpr -o AFPIII_Ih0001_81_93_NpT265 -ssdump
AFPIII_Ih0001_81_93_NpT265

Then, I had read somewhere in the archive to select the alpha carbons
for accurate results, and I did, but the following error pops up:


Then you read an inaccurate post. At the very least, all MainChain atoms must be considered. Think about how the DSSP algorithm works - assessment of hydrogen bonding patterns. Can these patterns be determined by using only alpha carbons?

I know I have posted several times about how to properly use do_dssp, and it is also on the wiki:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Gromacs_Utilities/do_dssp

Program do_dssp_d_mpi, VERSION 4.0.5
Source code file: do_dssp.c, line: 471

Fatal error:
Failed to execute command: /global/software/gromacs/dssp/bin/dssp -na
ddOD7WLo ddmJPpUs > /dev/null 2> /dev/null

The cluster technician tested the forwarded procedure (appended below),
and it seems that the backbone structure has some problems. I will be
appreciated if one tells me is it really a problem with backbone or sth
with installation of dssp. If problem is with backbone, then why pdb2gmx
did not issue any warnings?

The results below indicate that the command works correctly for groups that contain all the necessary atoms. Failures only occur when other, incorrect, groups are used.

-Justin

Regards,

Paymon


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Subject:
RE: Sorry + Re: GROMACS utilities
From:
Roman Baranowski <[email protected]>
Date:
Tue, 5 Oct 2010 19:31:23 -0700 (PDT)
To:
Paymon Pirzadeh <[email protected]>

To:
Paymon Pirzadeh <[email protected]>



    Dear Paymon,

I have interrupted the run (it was taking too long) and I did not want to prevent you from work in that directory. For: Opening library file /global/software/gromacs/4.0.5/intel/share/gromacs/top/aminoacids.dat
Group     0 (      System) has 293280 elements
Group     1 (     Protein) has  1002 elements
Group     2 (   Protein-H) has   485 elements
Group     3 (     C-alpha) has    66 elements
Group     4 (    Backbone) has   198 elements
Group     5 (   MainChain) has   265 elements
Group     6 (MainChain+Cb) has   328 elements
Group     7 ( MainChain+H) has   327 elements
Group     8 (   SideChain) has   675 elements
Group     9 ( SideChain-H) has   220 elements
Group    10 ( Prot-Masses) has  1002 elements
Group    11 ( Non-Protein) has 292278 elements
Group    12 (         SOL) has 292278 elements
Group    13 (       Other) has 292278 elements

0,1,2,5,6,7 work but
3,4,8,9,10,11,12 and 13 do not. However the output
Fatal error:
Failed to execute command: /global/software/gromacs/dssp/bin/dssp -na ddNPsTyg dda8k3CK
suggests that there is some problem with the input. So tried to run
    dssp -na ddNPsTyg dda8k3CK
interactively (without do_dssp_d_mpi -f AFPIII .......) and:

    dssp -na ddNPsTyg dda8k3CK
(I have used the full path i.e.:
/global/software/gromacs/dssp/bin/dssp -na ddeqsCnL ddfIOHeP)

the output is (I remove most of the lines as they do not seem to be relevant):
 !!! Backbone incomplete for residue ALA    1
     residue will be ignored !!!

 !!! Backbone incomplete for residue ASN    2
     residue will be ignored !!!

 !!! Backbone incomplete for residue GLN    3
     residue will be ignored !!!
.......................
......................

 !!! Backbone incomplete for residue ALA   66
     residue will be ignored !!!

 !!! HEADER-card missing !!!
 !!! COMPOUND-card missing !!!
 !!! SOURCE-card missing !!!
 !!! AUTHOR-card missing !!!
 !!! No residue with complete backbone !!!

So it once again suggests the input issue. I do not know too much about Gromacs and dssp setup but it clearly points to input.

    All the best
    Roman



On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:

Dear Roman,
do_dssp does analysis on secondary structure of proteins. It is written
on online blogs that to get the correct results, you should select alpha
carbons, option 3. However, the only problem that might be the case is
providing an index file of backbone alpha carbones which looks
irrelevant since do_dssp asks about the group interactively. I don't
know if I can try the command or not (since you mentioned it is
running), but you may try it again with group option 3.
Regards,

Paymon


On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 16:40 -0700, Roman Baranowski wrote:

     Dear Paymon,

I have just log in as you, cd to:
GROMACS/proteins/AFP-III/Ih0001/81_93_204/AFPIII_Ih0001_81_93_NpT265_round1
  and issued
module load gromacs
and than:
do_dssp_d_mpi -f AFPIII_Ih0001_81_93_NpT265.xtc -s
AFPIII_Ih0001_81_93_NpT265_1.tpr -o AFPIII_Ih0001_81_93_NpT265 -ssdump
AFPIII_Ih0001_81_93_NpT265

Select a group: 0
Selected 0: 'System'
There are 48779 residues in your selected group
Opening library file
/global/software/gromacs/4.0.5/intel/share/gromacs/top/ss.map
Reading frame       0 time    0.000
Back Off! I just backed up ddOjBDfr to ./#ddOjBDfr.1#
Reading frame       1 time   10.000
Reading frame      50 time  500.000

and it is still running , is it possible  that there is a need for some
extra maps or databases used by dssp in the share directory.

     All the best
     Roman


On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:

Dear Roman,
I tried it again and the still same error:

Program do_dssp_d_mpi, VERSION 4.0.5
Source code file: do_dssp.c, line: 471

Fatal error:
Failed to execute command: /global/software/gromacs/dssp/bin/dssp -na
dd4qT1kw ddhRhEOb > /dev/null 2> /dev/null

The command I used was

do_dssp_d_mpi -f AFPIII_Ih0001_81_93_NpT265.xtc -s
AFPIII_Ih0001_81_93_NpT265_1.tpr -o AFPIII_Ih0001_81_93_NpT265 -ssdump
AFPIII_Ih0001_81_93_NpT265

The location of files are:

/global/home/pirzadeh/GROMACS/proteins/AFP-III/Ih0001/81_93_204/AFPIII_Ih0001_81_93_NpT265_round1

I should say that each each time I rerun "module load gromacs".
Regards,

Paymon





On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 14:23 -0700, Roman Baranowski wrote:

     Dear Paymon,

Please try again, at the same time, Please send me the full command which
gives you this error (point me to your input and output files etc).

     All the best
     Roman


On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:

Dear Roman,
There is still problems:

Program do_dssp_d_mpi, VERSION 4.0.5
Source code file: do_dssp.c, line: 471

Fatal error:
Failed to execute command: /global/software/gromacs/dssp/bin -na
ddOgL0Rd ddqM7KPo > /dev/null 2> /dev/null

Regards,

Paymon



On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 13:55 -0700, Roman Baranowski wrote:

     Dear Paymon,

Can you please try again. I think I solve the issue (the binary code
downloaded has to be removed and the new has been just built from the
source).

     All the best
     Roman

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:

Dear Roman,
I tried to run the do_dssp_d_mpi 4.0.5, here is the error:

Program do_dssp_d_mpi, VERSION 4.0.5
Source code file: do_dssp.c, line: 471

Fatal error:
Failed to execute command: /global/software/gromacs/dssp/bin -na
ddP9udW0 ddBWjBu5 > /dev/null 2> /dev/null

I am not sure what the error is talking about. I expected dssp be a
single file in the bin forlder, but it looks different here!
Sorry for inconveniences.
regards,

Paymon







On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 17:54 -0700, Roman Baranowski wrote:

     Dear Paymon,

Sorry for the delay the dssp has been installed (I am still downloading the database and it should be done shortly). In order to use do_dssp_d_mpi do_dssp_d do_dssp_s etc. please reload the appropriate gromacs module (gromacs/4.0.7-serial or gromacs/4.0.7 for 4.0.7 version, or 4.0.5).
Please let me know if all is working as expected.

     All the best
     Roman


On Mon, 4 Oct 2010, Payman Pirzadeh wrote:

Dear Roman,
Have you had a chance to look into the DSSP issue of GROMACS I e-mailed
about last week?
Sorry for mass of e-mails.
Regards,

Paymon

-----Original Message-----
From: Roman Baranowski [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: October 1, 2010 2:37 AM
To: Payman Pirzadeh
Subject: Sorry + Re: GROMACS utilities



    Dear Paymon,

I will look into this (do_dssp_d_mpi utility) issue later today.

Now a little bit embarrassing mistake, editing the quota I made an error and did not modify properly your quota on orcinus it was still at 400G your jobs are generating quite a lot of data and your usage hit this level as a result the jobs on orcinus exited. I hope you can continue with the last checkpoint. Pleas resubmit and I will increase your priority so they
will start asap. My apologies....

    All the best
    Roman


On Thu, 30 Sep 2010, Payman Pirzadeh wrote:

Dear Roman,

I tried to use the do_dssp_d_mpi utility of GROMACS and it did not
work. It turned out that the executable file is not in the bin file
based on the error message:

Regards,



Paymon
















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