Amit Choubey wrote:
Yes Justin i understand that. Heres what i think is going on

I dont have any reference group. Now the COM distance is calculated wrt the origin and whenever the COM is more than half of the box its causing problem.


Correct.

I think changing the absolute reference to the initial COM of the pull group (using pull_init1) should fix this issue but i am not confident.


Using a defined reference group is the better method. That way, the pull distance is calculated with respect to this reference, and it sounds like that will allow you to use the box you have already set up.

-Justin

Thanks for looking into this.

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    Amit Choubey wrote:

        Hi,
        I am still not able to see the reason for the periodic distances
        coming into picture.


    I guess I don't fully understand your procedure.  If you only want
    to pull to a COM separation of 15 nm, there should be no problem,
    but yet you're achieving a COM separation of 18.5 nm?  That's
    exactly the problem.  If your box is 37 nm, 18.5 nm corresponds to
    the transition at which the code utilizes either the unit cell
    distance or the periodic distance as the restraint distance.  So it
    is as this point that your forces go haywire.

    -Justin

        Also, why pull_geometry = direction_periodic cannot be used with
        P-coupling; although it seems to do what i want.

        Amit

        On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Amit Choubey
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

           Hi,

           Initially, the pull group center of mass is at 8.16 nm and i
        want to
           pull 15 nm. I started with a box size of 37 nm in the pull
        direction.
           The problem occurs when the COM is at 18.5 nm (ie at half the box
           length).

           Thanks for the attention.

           Amit

           On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Justin A. Lemkul
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
           <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:



               Amit Choubey wrote:

                   Hi all,

                   I am trying to do pulling simulation. Following are
        the pull
                   parameters

                   pull = umbrella
                   pull_geometry = direction
                   pull_vec1 = 0 0 1
                   pull_group1 = RNA
                   pull_rate1 = 0.01
                   pull_k1 = 1000
                   pull_start = yes

                   Everything works fine until the pull group COM
        reaches half
                   the box length. The COM position changes by the box
        length
                   and that causes huge force on the group. What should
        i do to
                   fix this ? Also i am using NPT coupling.


               You have to use a sufficiently large box, otherwise the
        periodic
               distance becomes the reference distance when this
        happens.  This
               has been discussed numerous times on the list (hint:
        there is an
               archive for a reason!) and in the tutorial linked here:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Tutorials#Pull_Code_and_Umbrella_Sampling

               -Justin

                   Amit


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