Nick wrote:
One last question!

1- So what are the 12 energy terms I get by passing index file onto step 2 below? I ignored rerun! what does rerun does?



I don't know what 12 terms you're referring to. You'll get A-A, A-B, and B-B short-range nonbonded terms, the exact enumeration of which will depend on the settings in your .mdp file.

The -rerun function is explained in the manual, or alternatively "mdrun -h." I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that you had generated a trajectory using some energygrps and you wished to make changes after the fact in the way the nonbonded potential was decomposed.

2- So I dont have to include index file in mdrun initially..In brief what I need is:


    step 1  grompp .....(no index)

    step 2  mdrun     -s old.tpr       -o old.trr       -c *.gro

(grompp and mdrun  as usual) then:

grompp -f energygroups.mdp -c .top -o new.tpr * -n index.ndx*

       mdrun   *-s new.tpr      -rerun old.trr...*


Please confirm. Many thanks for your help.


You don't necessarily need the -rerun function if you plan ahead. Using mdrun -rerun is only useful in the case that you haven't set your energygrps properly and you don't want to completely run the simulation over again.

-Justin




On 22 February 2011 17:35, Justin A. Lemkul <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    Nick wrote:


        Dear Justin,

        Thanks for your reply and Sorry for asking naive questions...




        1- I am looking at all possible interaction energies between
        components A and B. that is A-A AB and BB. So interaction
        between single chains is not what I want. With this I think my
        initial approach was right. That is putting all atoms of 3 A
        chains under [A] and the same all solvent atoms under [B] and
        setting A and B as energy groups in mdp. Am I right?


    If you don't want your energies on a per-chain basis, then yes.


        2- One more thing bout question 3: I am passing on index.ndx to
        mdrun command.

        with the index file I talked about I am getting the follwoing
        for AA AB and BB: LJ SR, LJ 1-4 coulomb SR and 1-4. (i.e 12
        energy terms).

        I think you say I need rerun since you assumed I did not pass it
        onto mdrun. right?


    You need to create a new .tpr file that has the desired groups
    specified in it.  You pass the new .tpr file to mdrun, in
    conjunction with your old trajectory (i.e., mdrun -s new.tpr -rerun
    old.trr).


        3- to get intermolecular interaction energies say for AA I need
        to add up LJ SR+coulomb SR? say +123-50=73 ? or just take
        absolute values : 123+50=173 ?


    Sign matters a lot.  Positive is repulsive, negative is attractive.
     You can't just switch them arbitrarily.

    -Justin

        Thanks,



           Nick wrote:

               Dear experts,

               1- I am trying to get interaction energies between solute (3
               chains A) and solvent 50 molecules B. In the index file I
               created two groups: one for all atoms of [A] and and [B]
        for all
               solvent molecules. and by setting A and B as energy groups in
               mdp file I am getting break down as A-A, A-B and B-B with
        g_energy.

               I am a little confused as I dont know if I need to create
               different groups for my solute to get interaction
        energies A-A,
               A-B and B-B. I mean do I need to have [A1] for solute chain 1
               ...[A3] for chain 3?


           If you want a breakdown of per-chain energetics, then yes,
        specify
           each chain as a group.  The programs will only do what you tell
           them, nothing more, nothing less.



and then sent A1, A2, A3 in mdp file and run g_energy? if
        I need
               to specify different chains, then to get say A-A should I
               average over all possible A1-A2, A1A3, A2-A3, A1-B,
        A2,B...? I
               am really confused ..


           Theoretically, the short-range terms should sum, not average.


               2- I know it is naive question but What does A1-A1 mean?
        How can
               one chain interact with itself?


           Without knowing what the chain is, no one can answer this.
            Generally, any atoms that are within the short-range cutoff and
           further away than nrexcl bonds contribute to short-range
           interactions.  Long-range interactions (i.e., PME terms)
        happen too,
           but you can't decompose that term with energygrps.


               3- Do I need to use mdrun - rerun option to get beakdown
        or just
               g_energy gives what I need?


           You need to -rerun.  g_energy does not take an index file, and it
           only analyzes existing groups, it cannot derive new ones.

           -Justin


               Thanks for your help
               Paniz


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