maria goranovic wrote:
Sorry for the incomplete reply. version 4.5.3, command: pdb2gmx -f guan.pdb -ignh
I tried using -ter, but that did not help.



It appears that pdb2gmx is not equipped to handle the case of an isolated nucleotide. Keep in mind that pdb2gmx is intended for use with repeat building blocks of monomers, not isolated molecules. The default behavior is to assign a 5' end with no phosphate (i.e. RG rather than pRG). Attempting to choose "None" for a terminus leaves an incomplete phosphate group (i.e. PO3 instead of PO4) and thus a fatal error about a "dangling bond." I'm guessing this has been your experience?

There are two potential solutions:

1. Write an .rtp entry of a complete, custom RG nucleotide with the desired PO4 5' end.

2. Write a new entry in rna.n.tdb that adds another phosphate oxygen and adjusts charges appropriately by replacing the existing O and P atoms, at least.

-Justin

input coordinate file, pulled out from an RNA molecule.
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    1G        P    1   5.549   4.916   5.071
    1G      OP1    2   5.642   5.026   5.105
    1G      OP2    3   5.537   4.800   5.162
    1G      O5'    4   5.401   4.979   5.051
    1G      C5'    5   5.382   5.110   5.001
    1G      C4'    6   5.232   5.143   4.988
    1G      O4'    7   5.162   5.045   4.914
    1G      C3'    8   5.158   5.148   5.121
    1G      O3'    9   5.187   5.267   5.193
    1G      C2'   10   5.014   5.141   5.072
    1G      O2'   11   4.964   5.270   5.040
    1G      C1'   12   5.024   5.060   4.943
    1G       N9   13   4.955   4.930   4.956
    1G       C8   14   5.008   4.805   4.976
    1G       N7   15   4.919   4.709   4.980
    1G       C5   16   4.798   4.775   4.962
    1G       C6   17   4.665   4.723   4.955
    1G       O6   18   4.630   4.606   4.960
    1G       N1   19   4.570   4.824   4.941
    1G       C2   20   4.600   4.959   4.932
    1G       N2   21   4.498   5.044   4.920
    1G       N3   22   4.725   5.007   4.935
    1G       C4   23   4.819   4.910   4.950
    1G      H5'   24   5.429   5.120   4.904
    1G     H5''   25   5.427   5.182   5.070
    1G      H4'   26   5.222   5.240   4.938
    1G      H3'   27   5.182   5.059   5.179
    1G      H2'   28   4.950   5.094   5.146
    1G     HO2'   29   4.870   5.261   5.021
    1G      H1'   30   4.978   5.115   4.861
    1G       H8   31   5.113   4.787   4.986
    1G       H1   32   4.474   4.794   4.936
    1G      H21   33   4.403   5.010   4.918
    1G      H22   34   4.516   5.143   4.912
  10.00000  10.00000  10.00000


On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Mark Abraham <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>> wrote:

    On 22/03/2011 8:15 PM, maria goranovic wrote:
    is this a bug of some kind then? someone ? anyone?

    It's still hard to say. I asked you for your GROMACS version and
    input coordinate file, and you didn't give us either (in full).
    While you're there, what pdb2gmx command did you use?

    Mark


    just bumping,

    maria

    On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:17 AM, maria goranovic
    <mariagorano...@gmail.com <mailto:mariagorano...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Here are the contents of my input coordinate file. CRYST1 0.000 0.000 0.000 90.00 90.00 90.00 P 1 1
        ATOM      1  P   G   A   4       5.488  -0.842   0.708  1.00
         0.00           P
        ATOM      2  OP1 G   A   4       6.418   0.258   1.047  1.00
         0.00           O
        ATOM      3  OP2 G   A   4       5.367  -1.998   1.624  1.00
         0.00           O
        ATOM      4  O5' G   A   4       4.010  -0.213   0.513  1.00
         0.00           O
        ATOM      5  C5' G   A   4       3.816   1.098   0.014  1.00
         0.00           C
        ATOM      6  C4' G   A   4       2.324   1.432  -0.121  1.00
         0.00           C
        ATOM      7  O4' G   A   4       1.623   0.448  -0.862  1.00
         0.00           O
        ATOM      8  C3' G   A   4       1.584   1.482   1.211  1.00
         0.00           C
        ....
        ATOM     33  H21 G   A   4      -5.974   0.099  -0.815  1.00
         0.00           H
        ATOM     34  H22 G   A   4      -4.841   1.428  -0.876  1.00
         0.00           H


        Of course it would be best if pdb2gmx worked as it is if I
        just have a single nucleotide, and not a chain?

        Here, I am wondering if the above problem is occurring because
        pdb2gmx is not being able to deal with an isolated nucleotide
        (while it might be able to deal with an polymer)

        Maria


        On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:44 AM, Mark Abraham
        <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>> wrote:



            On 19/03/11, *maria goranovic * <mariagorano...@gmail.com
            <mailto:mariagorano...@gmail.com>> wrote:
            Dear All

            I am trying to generate a topology for guanosine
            monophosphate: i.e. an RNA base with a phosphate at the
            5' Carbon. I tried to read in a pdb file containing all
            atoms, and used pdb2gmx with CHARMM. However, the output
            coordinate file has no phosphate group on it. Why does
            the phosphate disappear, and why does pdb2gmx not even
give me a warning?

            That does sound suspicious, but it's hard to say what went
            wrong. What GROMACS version was it, and what were the
            contents of your input coordinate file?


            Assuming that a molecule like GMP does not have a
            topology, I am guessing I might have to make a new
            residue within CHARMM. that should not be too much work
            because there is no new angle/dihedral/bond/atom type to
            be be added. Can someone please help me with a simple
workflow so I do not miss something important?

            The procedure is outlined here:
            
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Adding_a_Residue_to_a_Force_Field
            Your case should be a reasonably straightforward exercise
            in assigning sensible atom types from the pre-existing
            options.




            Mark
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