Moeed wrote:


On 14 April 2011 02:11, Mark Abraham <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 14/04/2011 3:40 PM, Moeed wrote:


    On 13 April 2011 18:45, Mark Abraham <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        On 14/04/2011 10:22 AM, Moeed wrote:
        Hello,

        I have run 2 ns simulations on a hydrocarbon system (initial
        density of ~ 2 SI and box size is 15 nm), one with version
        4.0.7 and the other trial using 4.5.3. Both runs are almost
        equilibrated to 70 bar pressure but one is giving density of
        above 600SI (4.0.7) and the other density of around 15 SI
        (4.5.3). With 4.5.3 applying 100 bar pressure does not
        comrades the system either to the desired density. I need to
        study the system at different pressures from 1 to 70 bar, and
        I am wondering if the system can not be compressed with these
        ref_p values how can I keep the pressure fixed at P < 70 bar!?

        Please help if you have any idea on why these two versions
are giving inconsistent results and which one is reliable.

        Why are your potential energies positive? What does the final
        configuration look like? Why aren't you doing a "simulated
        annealing" style of compression with small increments of
        delta-P? (These, coincidentally are even good data for your
        study...) Massive leaps in ensemble conditions are often
        poorly-conditioned for numerical integration. You're
        generating velocities that are only approximately correct, not
        giving them any chance to equilibrate, and then smashing the
        system with massive over-pressure. Small wonder it might
        sometimes break...


    Hi Mark,

    You mean I should get negative potential? I am sure topology is
    generated properly. can you explain why this is concerning?

    What does a set of charges with positive potential energy want to do?


    Can you please elaborate on compressing using simulated annealing?
    How can I do this?

    That's not what I said - I used quotation marks and the word "style"
    for a reason. I told you not to do massive changes of conditions,
    and to use small increments of delta-P. Equilibrate at one P, change
    it a bit. Repeat. This is like simulated annealing, but with P
    instead of T.


Dear Mark,

I see now what you mean. But actually my problem is not equilibrating..I can follow your advise and equilibrate the system but as I said starting from the same structure and settings, both runs one with 4.0.7 and the other 4.5.3, show that system is pretty close to ref_p = 70 but densities are terrible different. What I dont realize is that how to judge which version is giving correct density. and also version 4.5.3 does not compress with any pressure below 100 bar. So even when I compress using 4.0.7, and try to use output structure from 4.0.7 as input for 4.5.3 to apply say ref_p of 70, my box expands again.

I am stuck on this and it seems the only option is to just stick to version 4.0.7!


Upgrade to version 4.5.4. There was a bug involving the output of pressure-related terms that was fixed. This may or may not be relevant, but before making such conclusions, always verify your conclusions with the latest bugfix release.

-Justin

:)


    Mark


    Thanks, :)


        When reporting output from .log file and g_energy, please
        either use plain text email, or switch to a non-proportional
        font like Courier. Those tables make it harder for people to
        help you than you want it to be.

        Mark



        4.0.7

        Statistics over 250001 steps [* 1500.0001 thru 2000.0001 ps
        ],* 14 data sets
        The term 'Cons. rmsd ()' is averaged over 2501 frames
        All other averages are exact over 250001 steps

Energy Average RMSD Fluct. Drift Tot-Drift
        
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Angle 36.9945 0.806738 0.804483 0.0521993 0.208798 Ryckaert-Bell. 9.04227 0.376253 0.371412 0.0521057 0.208424
        LJ-14                       5.23048   0.119612   0.119611
        0.00033983 0.00135933
Coulomb-14 -1.66329 0.104171 0.102175 0.0175753 0.0703015 LJ (SR) -27.3967 0 0 0.0421934 0.168774
        Coulomb (SR)                8.98711   0.163579    0.16062
        -0.0268199   -0.10728
Potential 31.1944 0 0 0.137594 0.550377
        Kinetic En.                 51.1009   0.987759   0.987724
        0.00725949  0.0290381
Total Energy 82.2953 0 0 0.144851 0.579408
        Temperature                  299.98    5.79849    5.79828
        0.000340897   0.170449
*Pressure (bar) 69.3587 414.279 414.256 0.0298385 14.9193*
        Cons. rmsd ()            4.01744e-06 1.41883e-07
        1.41883e-07          0          0
        *Box-X                       3.04882          0          0
        3.57512e-06 0.00178757
        Box-Y                       3.04882          0          0
        3.57512e-*


        -----------------------------
        4.5.3.

        [* 1500.0001 thru 2000.0001 ps ],*

Energy Average Err.Est. RMSD Tot-Drift
        
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Angle 37.1357 0.071 0.812307 -0.099711 (kJ/mol) Ryckaert-Bell. 9.17677 0.14 0.445934 -0.529281 (kJ/mol) LJ-14 5.18878 0.0087 0.137673 -0.03119 (kJ/mol) Coulomb-14 -1.60372 0.051 0.126405 -0.144403 (kJ/mol) LJ (SR) -4.24478 0.29 0.742141 0.697187 (kJ/mol) Coulomb (SR) 8.97451 0.082 0.198278 0.232025 (kJ/mol) Potential 54.6272 0.31 1.20733 0.124627 (kJ/mol) Kinetic En. 51.1047 0.021 0.9945 -0.066306 (kJ/mol) Total Energy 105.732 0.31 1.58869 0.058321 (kJ/mol) Temperature 300.002 0.12 5.83806 -0.389239 (K) *Pressure 66.734 5.3 91.83 11.5294 (bar)*
        Constr. rmsd             2.2661e-10    2.3e-10 3.58302e-08
        -1.3595e-09  ()
*Box-X 11.0055 0.082 0.175309 -0.496198 (nm) Box-Y 11.0055 0.082 0.175309 -0.496198 (nm)*




        pbc              =  xyz
integrator = md dt = 0.002 nsteps = 1000000 nstcomm = 100 nstenergy = 100 nstxout = 100 nstlist = 10 ns_type = grid
        coulombtype         =  Shift
vdw-type = Shift rcoulomb-switch = 0 rvdw-switch = 0.9 rlist = 1.2 rcoulomb = 1.2 rvdw = 1.0 Tcoupl = v-rescale tc-grps = System tau_t = 0.1 ref_t = 300
        Pcoupl              =  berendsen
Pcoupltype = isotropic tau_p = 1 compressibility = 4.5e-5 4.5e-5 ref_p = 70

gen_vel = yes gen_temp = 300.0 gen_seed = 173529

constraints = all-bonds constraint-algorithm = lincs


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