Nilesh Dhumal wrote:
Hello Justin,

I used 0.5 fs time step and still I got  dielectric constant ~2.

This is the md.mdp file  I used. I checked the temperature it didn't go
more than ~ 320 K.


Still, that's unacceptable if your ref_t is 295. The fact that the temperature is still rocketing up suggests the same instability I found.

title               =  cpeptide MD
cpp                 =  /usr/bin/cpp
integrator          =  md
dt                  =  0.001    ; ps !
nsteps              =  6500000     ; total 5 ps.
nstcomm             =  1000
nstxout             =  1000
nstvout             =  1000
nstfout             =  1
nstlist             =  1
ns_type             =  grid
rlist               =  0.6
rcoulomb            =  0.6
rvdw                =  0.7

These cutoffs make no sense. The paper you've cited used 0.9 nm. If you're trying to reproduce previous work, use the same settings.

coulombtype         = PME
vdwtype             = cut-off

Similarly here, you haven't applied dispersion correction, which you should, per the methods used in the JCP article.

-Justin

pbc                 = xyz
fourierspacing      = 0.12
fourier_nx = 0
fourier_ny = 0
fourier_nz = 0
pme_order           = 4
ewald_rtol          = 1e-5
optimize_fft        = yes
; Berendsen temperature coupling is on
Tcoupl = v-rescale
tau_t = 0.1
tc-grps  =system
ref_t =   295
; Pressure coupling is  on
Pcoupl              = parrinello-rahman
pcoupltype          = isotropic
tau_p               =  0.5
compressibility     =  4.5e-5
ref_p               =  1.0
; Generate velocites is on at 300 K.
gen_vel             =  yes
gen_temp            =  295.0
gen_seed            =  173529


Nilesh


On Tue, May 10, 2011 6:14 pm, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:

The gmx-developers list is not the forum for these types of questions.  I
am replying via gmx-users, which is where the discussion should stay.

I took a few minutes to dig into this.  My conclusion is that your system
is not stable.  I would encourage you to analyze the temperature and
pressure of your systems that are giving odd results.  When I used the
topology you provided, the temperature spiked to over 600 K and the box
began to oscillate extensively as if the system were about to explode.
The resulting epsilon value was about 1.6.


If I reduce the timestep to 0.5 fs, the results are much more reasonable,
and using the Ka and Kb values in the paper (not halved!) I get a much
more sensible result, even after just 100 ps.  It looks to me as if the
combination of these parameters and a 1-fs timestep is not entirely
stable.  I know the original authors used dt = 1 fs, but the point
remains.

-Justin


Nilesh Dhumal wrote:

Hello,


I am using flexible water model for my system. I am referring a paper
J.
Chem. Phys. 124, 024503 (2006). Author have used Amber type force field.


i.e. 1/2 Kbond (r-req)**2 + 1/2 Kangle(theta-thetaeq)**2.

Kbond = 443153.3808 kJ/mol nm**2


Kangle= 317.5656 kJ/mol rad**2.


I am using olss-aa force field parameters in Gromacs  VERSION 4.0.7.


I checked some papers in which author have used oplsaa force field in
Gromacs. 1/2 factor is not in opls force field if I compare opls and
amber.


I didn’t get the proper dielectric constant for water when I used the
parameters reported in paper

(Kbond = 443153.3808 kJ/mol nm**2,Kangle= 317.5656 kJ/mol rad**2)


I half the value of Kb and get the proper dielectric constant (~80) for
 water reported in paper. If I half Kangle  then I don’t get proper
value. Below are the results for the dielectric constant of water.
Bond length is nm.


Here I have done some analysis.  The original value reported in J.
Chem.
Phys. 124, 024503 2006, paper are


Kbond = 443153.3808 kJ/mol nm**2
Kangle = 317.5656 kJ/mol rad**2.



bond length    Kbond       angle    Kangle    dielectric constant
0.1012
443153.3808    113.24  317.5656       ~1.9 : orginal value



0.1012       221576.6904    113.24  317.5656       ~80   : 1/2 (Kbond)



0.1012       443153.3808    113.24  158.7828       ~1.58 : 1/2 (kangle)



0.1012      221576.6904    113.24  317.5656       ~1.9   : 1/2
(Kbond)&(Kangle)



Here I pasted spc_fw.itp file used for the simulation.


; Derived from parsing of runfiles/alat.top.orig
[ defaults ]
; nbfunc        comb-rule       gen-pairs       fudgeLJ fudgeQQ
;1               3               yes             0.5     0.5
; comb-rule 3 is square-root sigma, the OPLSAA version


[ atomtypes ]
; full atom descriptions are available in ffoplsaa.atp
; name  bond_type    mass    charge   ptype          sigma      epsilon
opls_1001  OW  8     15.99940    -0.820       A    3.1655e-01
6.503e-01
opls_1002  HW  1      1.00800     0.410       A    0.00e+00     0.00e+00


[ bondtypes ]
; i    j  func       b0          kb
OW    HW      1    0.1012   443153.3808   ; J. Chem. Phys.
(2006),124,024503
[ angletypes ]
;  i    j    k  func       th0       cth
HW     OW     HW      1   113.24  317.5656 ; J. Chem. Phys.
(2006),124,024503


[ moleculetype ]
; Name            nrexcl
WAT             3


[ atoms ]
; nr       type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr     charge       mass  typeB
 chargeB      massB 1   opls_1001     1    WAT     OW      1      -0.82
15.99940 ;
2   opls_1002     1    WAT    HW1      1       0.41      1.008   ;
3   opls_1002     1    WAT    HW2      1       0.41      1.008   ;


[ bonds ]
; i     j       funct
1     2     1
1     3     1


[ angles ]
; i     j       k       funct
2     1     3     1


In water.top file, I included spc_fw.itp file.


; Include water topology
#include "spc_fw.itp"



I run the simulation 6.5 ns for collecting data and I have total 256
water molecules.


Is there anything wrong with my .itp file?


I am using Gromacs VERSION 4.0.7.




Thanks


Nilesh




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