Hi everybody

 i did Againrun the simulation for 2000ns and the proteins were just moving 
every were , they were forming the two rimers but not for along time like in 
the simulation with the 200ns and 20 ns.

Justin : i did check the periodic boundary using VMD and it does not to seem to 
be the case. thank you 

so I am thinking about running the simulation in diferrent solutions like low 
salt , high salt and organic solvent ... I am new to gromacs and i only used 
water to solvate the system and wondering if using different pH solution and 
different salt concentration solution  is something possible to do . i did some 
research and found out that you can add ions like NA+ and CL_ but i was 
wondering if anybody does have an idea of some solution that already have a pH 
known or solutions with high salt concentaration that i can use instead of 
water when solvaiting the system.

please any suggestion will be appreciated 

thank you

fatima-ezzahra



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De : Justin A. Lemkul <[email protected]>
À : Discussion list for GROMACS users <[email protected]>
Envoyé le : Mercredi 6 Juillet 2011 10h01
Objet : [gmx-users] Re: Hexamer problem



errabah fatima ezzahra wrote:
> Hi All;
> 
>  I did run simulation for 6 proteins for 200ns and the protein is just 18 
>residue each (have 6 of them)  so 108 residues. i did run the simulation in 
>constant pressure then with Temperature 650K (for 20 ns) to make sure that are 
>separate and then run the simulation of the proteins with 300K Temperature for 
>200ns. I am supposed to get a hexamer but still giving me two trimers that are 
>perpendicular to each other.
> does any body have an idea why this is happening?/
> 

Are you sure you have trimers, or do you have a hexamer that is split across a 
periodic boundary, making it appear as if you have two trimers?

Also realize that (1) a single trajectory cannot be consider conclusive and (2) 
200 ns is still "short" by in vitro/in vivo standards.  Again, I have no clue 
what time frame you should expect, but it is an important caveat.

-Justin

> Thank you so much for your help
> 
> Fatima-ezzahra
> 
> 
> 
>  >
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>  > *De :* Justin A. Lemkul <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>  > *À :* errabah fatima ezzahra <[email protected] 
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>  > *Objet :* Re: [gmx-users] Hexamer problem
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > errabah fatima ezzahra wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  >  I will really appreciate any help of suggestions.I am doing simulation 
>of six monomers of identical helical peptide. the experiment literature say 
>that the peptides in a aqueous  solution should form a hexamer. so i have done 
>simulations for the six peptides under normal conditions with T of 300k and 
>the result are two trimer that are perpendicular with each other.
>  >  >
>  >  > I don't know that to do to get the monomers rearrange and form a 
>heaxamer instead of two trimers.
>  >  >
>  >
>  > You haven't said how long your simulations are, but such processes are 
>likely to take quite some time.  You may need extensive simulation or some 
>fortuitous starting configuration to actually produce this behavior.  If the 
>literature measures the kinetics of such a process, then you have a baseline 
>for what you might expect; keep in mind that atomistic MD simulations are 
>generally only feasible on the submicrosecond time frame.
>  >
>  > -Justin
>  >
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