On 13/07/2011 7:01 PM, Luke Goodsell wrote:
Hi Mark,

    Perhaps your simulation is intrinsically unstable, and you haven't
    gotten unlucky enough yet on the iMac. Check out
    http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up

The simulation on the iMac reaches a stable equilibrium.

OK, but that can be just lucky - how lucky depends on your preparation protocol, which you haven't told us about. You are not actually doing the same calculation on both machines - the processes are chaotic even if everything seems equivalent.

On the cluster, it appears stable until step 14555 where I get LINCS warnings such as

Those warnings look pretty localized to a region of your structure. Firstly, some kind of linking or GROMACS failure would be likely to be manifest all over the place - and cause problems even if you did a run with different velocity generation. Secondly, have you looked at the resulting PDB files? You may wish to run the simulation to step 14500, and then restart with nstxout=1 so you can watch it explode. That may highlight a bad contact suddenly being able to relax.

Mark


        Step 14555, time 29.11 (ps)  LINCS WARNING

        relative constraint deviation after LINCS:

        rms 0.078151, max 2.416183 (between atoms 1720 and 1721)

        bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:

         atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length

           1720   1721  151.3    0.1080   0.3689      0.1080

           1707   1708  152.8    0.1090   0.3674      0.1090

        Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates


        Step 14555, time 29.11 (ps)  LINCS WARNING

        relative constraint deviation after LINCS:

        rms 0.078245, max 2.420384 (between atoms 1720 and 1721)

        bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:

         atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length

           1720   1721  151.3    0.1080   0.3694      0.1080

           1707   1708  152.8    0.1090   0.3676      0.1090


        Back Off! I just backed up step14555b.pdb to ./#step14555b.pdb.1#


        Back Off! I just backed up step14555c.pdb to ./#step14555c.pdb.1#

        Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates


        Step 14556, time 29.112 (ps)  LINCS WARNING

        relative constraint deviation after LINCS:

        rms 133.212808, max 5757.494141 (between atoms 1720 and 1721)

        bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:

         atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length

           1722   1724   36.7    0.1336   0.1716      0.1335

           1722   1723   35.5    0.1230   0.1553      0.1229

           1720   1721   90.0    0.3694 621.9174      0.1080

           1718   1720  144.9    0.1407   0.5335      0.1400

           1718   1719  105.6    0.1085   1.0804      0.1080

           1716   1717   90.6    0.0960  24.8478      0.0960

           1715   1718  136.5    0.1414   0.4281      0.1409

           1715   1716   90.6    0.1366  37.5311      0.1364

           1713   1715  111.6    0.1412   1.0479      0.1409

           1713   1714  120.7    0.1082   0.3603      0.1080

           1711   1713  118.7    0.1402   0.3129      0.1400

           1711   1712   53.9    0.1082   0.1451      0.1080

           1710   1720  101.0    0.1407   1.7692      0.1400

           1710   1711   57.8    0.1404   0.2418      0.1400

           1707   1710  112.0    0.1520   0.5543      0.1510

           1707   1709  107.4    0.1098   0.5075      0.1090

           1707   1708  102.7    0.3676   1.4700      0.1090

           1705   1722   75.1    0.1525   0.2535      0.1522

           1705   1707  106.7    0.1533   0.6142      0.1526

           1705   1706   56.4    0.1093   0.1136      0.1090

           1703   1705   89.0    0.1452   0.2683      0.1449

           1703   1704   42.3    0.1010   0.1384      0.1010

           1701   1703   38.9    0.1336   0.1768      0.1335

           1673   1674   35.7    0.1229   0.1230      0.1229

           1670   1673   31.2    0.1522   0.1523      0.1522

        Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates


        Step 14556, time 29.112 (ps)  LINCS WARNING

        relative constraint deviation after LINCS:

        rms 133.228686, max 5758.184082 (between atoms 1720 and 1721)

        bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:

         atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length

           1722   1724   47.6    0.1336   0.1995      0.1335

           1722   1723   45.8    0.1230   0.1781      0.1229

           1720   1721   90.0    0.3694 621.9919      0.1080

           1718   1720  141.7    0.1407   0.5243      0.1400

           1718   1719  106.2    0.1085   1.1444      0.1080

           1716   1717   90.7    0.0960  24.8269      0.0960

           1715   1718  144.6    0.1414   0.5103      0.1409

           1715   1716   90.6    0.1366  37.5424      0.1364

           1713   1715  112.9    0.1412   1.0642      0.1409

           1713   1714  120.9    0.1082   0.3765      0.1080

           1711   1713  124.0    0.1402   0.2954      0.1400

           1711   1712   52.5    0.1082   0.1399      0.1080

           1710   1720  103.1    0.1407   1.8233      0.1400

           1710   1711   75.5    0.1404   0.2584      0.1400

           1707   1710  117.5    0.1520   0.6407      0.1510

           1707   1709  109.9    0.1098   0.6153      0.1090

           1707   1708  102.2    0.3676   1.5528      0.1090

           1705   1722   92.4    0.1525   0.2917      0.1522

           1705   1707  107.2    0.1533   0.7484      0.1526

           1705   1706   57.0    0.1093   0.0958      0.1090

           1703   1705   94.4    0.1452   0.3185      0.1449

           1703   1704   49.7    0.1010   0.1528      0.1010

           1701   1703   46.6    0.1336   0.1937      0.1335

           1673   1674   35.7    0.1229   0.1230      0.1229

           1670   1673   31.2    0.1522   0.1523      0.1522


        Back Off! I just backed up step14556b.pdb to ./#step14556b.pdb.1#


        Back Off! I just backed up step14556c.pdb to ./#step14556c.pdb.1#

        Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates


The system is 'blowing up', no (rms ~575.8nm between 1720 and 1721)?

It appears to me that there is some significant difference in the operation of gromacs in the two environments.

Thanks,
Luke

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