Steven Neumann wrote:
One question.... for Glycine it is easy to assess 3 possible hbonds which can create as hydrogen is only one atom as a side chain.
How about other amino acids and their maximum hbonds they can create?

Any OH or NH group is a donor, any lone pair is an acceptor (though obviously not modeled explicitly in MD). The ability of MD force fields to agree with reality in this respect is debatable, but should come close.

-Justin

Steven

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Steven Neumann <s.neuman...@gmail.com <mailto:s.neuman...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Thank you for clarification Justin!!! The Manual is not as clear as
    you :P
Steven

    On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu
    <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



        Steven Neumann wrote:



            On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
            <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
            <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>> wrote:



               Steven Neumann wrote:



                   On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
                   <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
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                      Steven Neumann wrote:

                          Hi Gromacs Users,
                           I have calculated hydrogen bonds and
            collisions between my
                          ligands and every single residue using
            g_hbond. Looking
                   at the
                          criteria adpoted by Gromacs I found impossible
            that number of
                          hydrogen bonds were higher than number of
            collisions...
                   And what
                          is interesting in one of my residue I obtained
            result like
                          this... All Hbonds with Glycine - 1872, All
            Collisions 704.
                           Does anyone know how is it possible?
I don't know how any of your numbers are possible
            (1872 H-bonds
                      forming with a glycine?), or what you are defining
            as a collision
                      and how you calculated it. Please provide the
            exact commands that
                      you're using.  If you're equating a contact (e.g.
            from g_mindist)
                      with a collision, then realize that the default
            criteria for a
                      contact are very different than the geometric
            criteria for a
                      hydrogen bond.

                      -Justin

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                    My system is made of 10 ligands and one protein. I
            used command:
                    g_hbond -f md.trr -s md.tpr -n res91.ndx -num
            91with10LIGbonds.xvg
                    Where I specified in the index file two groups: 10
            ligands and
                   Glycine residue. So I have calculated hbonds (second
            column) and
                   collisions (third column) and then I made a sum of
            all frames
                   during 100 ns simualtion time (one frame every 50 ps)
            obtaining
                   1872 hbonds and 703 collisions between Glycine and 10
            ligands. I
                   did it with every residue to assess binding affinity of
                   different amino acids.
                   Criteria for collision is distance <3.5 A, and fo
            hbond distance
                   <3.5 A and angle. So when calcualting hbond and
            collisions the
                   number of hbonds has has to be smaller while
            collision takes
                   into account hbonds as welll. I obtained results like
            this for
                   all other residues which seems to be correct. Am I
right?
               No.  The second column is not inclusive of the first.  It
            counts the
               number of atoms that are within hydrogen bonding
            distance, but do
               not meet the criteria because of the angle between D-H-A.


               -Justin

               In this case number of collisions has to include number
            of hbonds.
               If collision is counted as a distance <3.5 and hbond
            distance <3.5
               plus angle D-H-A means that collisions covers hbonds...
            Explain
               please whether I am wrong.


        The second column lists the number of atom pairs that satisfy
        the distance requirement but do not satisfy the angle
        requirement and therefore are not hydrogen bonds.  The two
        columns are mutually exclusive.  The sum of these two columns
        would be the total number of pairs that are within
        hydrogen-bonding distance, but the first column indicates those
        that are actually involved in hydrogen bonds (because of the
        angle), and the second column indicates those that are not
        involved in hydrogen bonds.


        -Justin

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