My suggestion was to actually physically look at the data you are using to 
calculate the average.  Make a graph of pressure versus time.  Something as 
simple as actually looking at the data can tell you a lot, rather than just 
pulling the average from somewhere.

Catch ya,

Dr. Dallas Warren
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Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Monash University
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Sikandar Mashayak
Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2011 1:05 AM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Pressure estimation from NVT

Hi

@ Dallas and Justin

Do you mean that for gromacs version 4.5.3 averages computed using g_energy may 
be flawed? And are you suggesting to compute average pressure explicitly from 
instantaneous P values in trajectory?

@ Mark

Thanks for suggestion. I am doing 500 ps of equilibration and 10 ns of 
production runs with 2141 molecules.

So the important point that I want to understand is that if I use the right 
averaging or newer gromacs version, and do large system with longer production 
runs, how accurate is the estimate of pressure values from bulk water NVT 
simulations?

thanks
sikandar
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Mark Abraham 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 27/09/2011 3:48 AM, Sikandar Mashayak wrote:
Hi

I am trying to determine pressure of water at given density and temperature 
using SPC/E water model. To achieve this, I am doing NVT bulk simulations and 
then using g_energy I get average pressure values. The question I have is how 
accurate these average pressure predictions are?

e.g. I get average pressure of 185 bar for 300 K and 1 g/cm^3 water density, 
but theoretical value for it is around 1 bar. What are the possible reasons for 
this much deviation from theoretical value? Is there anything wrong with my set 
up? I am using 2141 water molecules in 4*4*4 periodic box, Nose-Hoover 
thermostat with 0.2ps time constant , MD algorithm with 1fs time-step, LJ with 
1.5 nm cut off and PME for electrostatics.

The length of your simulation, and the absence of the equilibration period from 
your data collection are also critical factors in obtaining accurate converged 
averages, but usually neglected when people report what might be anomalies... 
please see http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure

Mark

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