On 9/12/2011 5:37 AM, Sławomir Stachura wrote:
Hi!
Thanks Mark for reply. When I calculated fractional diffusion constant from 
mass weighted MSD of long simulation I get sth about 0.05. But when I do the 
same for centre of mass, considering that MSD is expressed in nm^2, the result 
is 1.35. When I look into xvg file  MSD of centre of mass is 10-20 times than 
for mass-weighted (which is substantially wrong). So assuming that, by any 
chance, centre of mass MSD is in A^2, calculated fractional diffusion constant 
is of 0.02 magnitude, which is theoretically more understandable.
What I can show you is a sample of two MSDs:

- Mass weighted:

          0           0
         15   0.0150352
         30   0.0198877
         45   0.0235849
         60   0.0267214
         75   0.0294651
         90   0.0319853
        105   0.0342538
        120   0.0364239
        135   0.0384275
        150   0.0403661
        165   0.0421938
        180   0.0439495
        195   0.0456557
        210   0.0472885
        225   0.0488768
        240   0.0503814
        255    0.051868
        270   0.0533207
        285   0.0547436
        300   0.0561625

-And centre of mass:

          0           0
         15    0.916885
         30     1.05944
         45     1.16649
         60     1.25004
         75     1.31444
         90     1.37307
        105     1.43301
        120     1.47879
        135     1.52776
        150     1.57137
        165      1.6211
        180     1.64439
        195     1.68883
        210     1.71222
        225     1.75035
        240     1.77255
        255      1.8117
        270     1.83702
        285     1.87376
        300      1.8958


But still there is more thing - do you how the MSD is normalized? Because I 
have compared mass weighted MSD calculated using Gromacs tool and nMoldyn and I 
get the same difference for all my cases (simulations of 2ns, 15ns and 150ns)- 
in the latter  diffusion constant is twice the value of the one obtained in 
Gromacs. So I expect the difference in normalization.

OK, but we need to see your terminal command lines in order to eliminate your use of the tool as a source of the problem. They should be at the top of the .xvg file, if nowhere else.

Mark


Cheers,
    Slawomir




On 6/12/2011 3:58 AM, S“awomir Stachura wrote:
Hi,

There is something interesting concerning these MSD calculations. If I treat 
Centre of Mass MSD  if it'd be expressed not in nm^2/ps , but Angstroms^2/ps, I 
get ideally the same results as for mass-weighted ones. And it's true for all 
my three cases, in which I performed simulation of different times. Is that 
possible there is some bug in MSD? Because as for me it looks so....
I would be amazed if GROMACS did this. Can you copy and paste from your
terminal to show this?

Mark

Hope to have someone join the discussion,
    Slawomir





Wiadomo¶æ napisana przez S“awomir Stachura w dniu 2011-12-04, o godz. 22:38:

Hi,

I was just wondering how MSDs in Gromacs are normalized. I am calculatiing MSDs 
for my lipid system of different timesteps of simulation and I get much higher 
results for centre of mass calculations in comparison to mass-weighted one.  
And I thought about normalization issue, but I couldn't find any informations 
concerning that topic in manual.
I'd be grateful if someone could explain how mean square displacement is 
normalized.

Cheers,
   Slawomir

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