Dear Abraham,

How would it work if I remove the hydrogen atoms that I wish to ignore from my 
input co-ordinate file? The pdb2gmx tries to add the missing hydorgen atoms for 
which the .hdb doesn't have information.

In my case here, I can consider heme as a ligand instead of having it as 
protein since it doesn't need to be the part of the protein.

Thanks for your information.
Sundar

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Abraham <[email protected]>
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 6:42 pm
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF


              On 20/04/2012 7:33 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:    
          
 Dear Abraham,
            
            I am ignoring hydrogens for the protein residues since I am         
   not sure if the Gromacs has an option to ignore hydrogen            only for 
pretein residues but not for the heme complexed            with it.
          
        
    
    No, there is no ability to ignore them selectively - but if you want    to 
ignore any of them, you have to address the heme hydrogen    database issue, or 
go and remove the hydrogen atoms that you wish to    ignore from your input 
coordinate file.
    
    
          
            
            One of my colleagues suggested to treat the Heme as an            
ligand not as a part of the protein to solve this issue. How            would 
that really affect the accuracy of the simulation?
          
        
    
    It's not a question of accuracy, but rather that if you have bonded    
interactions between heme and protein, they have to be part of the    same 
[moleculetype], which is what pdb2gmx is struggling to    generate.
    
    Mark
    
    
          
            
            Thanks
            Sundar
          
          
 
          
          
 
          
          
-----Original            Message-----
            From: Mark Abraham <[email protected]>
            To: Discussion list for GROMACS users            
<[email protected]>
            Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 3:57 pm
            Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF
            
            
              On 20/04/2012 4:38 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:              
                    
 
                    
                    
 Dear                        Abraham,
                        
                        Thanks for your email. I have already read the          
              manual to solve the problem but I wasn't                        
successful.
                      
                  
              
              That's good to say (particularly the first time you post a        
      request for help, else you'll just get told to go and              read), 
but is unlikely to get much help because you              haven't identified a 
specific problem. You'd like the              ability to build hydrogen atoms 
on a heme residue. pdb2gmx              has to have a specific recipe for doing 
that. The manual              describes the required format and gives an 
example.              Someone's going to have to do some work.
              
              
                    
 
                        I need little more detailed answer to solve the         
               problem. 
                        
                        By the way, here is the full command line for           
             which I got the error.
                        
                        $ pdb2gmx -f CYP.pdb -o CYP_CHARMM.pdb -p               
         CYP1_CHARMM.top -i CYP_CHARMM.itp -ignh
                      
                  
              
              If you don't ignore hydrogens, and they're already              
correct, you don't need to re-generate them...
              
              Mark
              
              
                    
 
                        The error is
                        
                      WARNING:                              atom HA is missing 
in residue HEM 513 in                              the pdb file
                                       You might need to add atom HA to         
                     the hydrogen database of building block                    
          HEME
                                       in the file aminoacids.hdb (see          
                    the manual)
                              
                              
                              WARNING: atom HB is missing in residue HEM        
                      513 in the pdb file
                                       You might need to add atom HB to         
                     the hydrogen database of building block                    
          HEME
                                       in the file aminoacids.hdb (see          
                    the manual)
                              
                              
                              WARNING: atom HC is missing in residue HEM        
                      513 in the pdb file
                                       You might need to add atom HC to         
                     the hydrogen database of building block                    
          HEME
                                       in the file aminoacids.hdb (see          
                    the manual)
                              
                              .
                              .
                              .
                              .
                              .
-------------------------------------------------------
                              Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.3
                              Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 1449
                              
                              Fatal error:
                              There were 30 missing atoms in molecule           
                   Protein, if you want to use this                             
 incomplete topology anyhow, use the option                              
-missing
                              For more information and tips for                 
             troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
                              website at 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
-------------------------------------------------------
                              
                              Thanks.
                              
                              Sundar Jubilant
                            
                       
                    
 
                    
                    
-----Original                      Message-----
                      From: Mark Abraham <[email protected]>
                      To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
<[email protected]>
                      Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 2:17 pm
                      Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27         
             FF
                      
                      
                        On 20/04/2012 2:33 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:           
             
Dear gmx-users,
                                
                                I am new to Gromacs and trying to               
                 simulate a protein with a heme group                           
     using CHARMM27 ff in Gromacs 4.5.3. I                                have 
received the following error while                                running 
pdb2gmx .
                              
                        
                        When asking for help, please give your full             
           command lines and/or interactive selections so                       
 that we can know more context.
                        
                        
 
                                WARNING: atom HA is missing in residue          
                      HEM 513 in the pdb file
                                         You might need to add atom HA          
                      to the hydrogen database of building                      
          block HEME
                                         in the file aminoacids.hdb (see        
                        the manual)
                                
                                
                                WARNING: atom HB is missing in residue          
                      HEM 513 in the pdb file
                                         You might need to add atom HB          
                      to the hydrogen database of building                      
          block HEME
                                         in the file aminoacids.hdb (see        
                        the manual)
                                
                                
                                WARNING: atom HC is missing in residue          
                      HEM 513 in the pdb file
                                         You might need to add atom HC          
                      to the hydrogen database of building                      
          block HEME
                                         in the file aminoacids.hdb (see        
                        the manual)
                                
                                .
                                .
                                .
                                .
                                .
-------------------------------------------------------
                                Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.3
                                Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 1449
                                
                                Fatal error:
                                There were 30 missing atoms in molecule         
                       Protein, if you want to use this                         
       incomplete topology anyhow, use the                                
option -missing
                                For more information and tips for               
                 troubleshooting, please check the                              
  GROMACS
                                website at 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
-------------------------------------------------------
                                
                                Can anyone help how can I generate and          
                      add hydrogen database information for                     
           heme to be used with CHARMM27 ff?
                        
                        
                              You'll have to read the applicable                
              sections of manual chapter 5, make a local                        
      copy of the charmm27.ff folder in your                              
working directory and editing                              aminoacids.hdb to 
add the generation                              information. When you're done, 
please post                              your efforts so that others might be 
able                              to benefit from them in future. (Also,        
                      search first in case this has already                     
         happened!)
                              
                              Mark
                             
                      
                        
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