On 2/7/13 2:29 PM, Davide Mercadante wrote:
Thank you Justin,

I guess this means that this kind of simulations is not possible without a
modification of the forcefield (which would ultimately mean using a
different forcefield I believe)?


If you're looking to unfold secondary structure elements, yes.

-Justin

Thanks.

Cheers,
Davide

On 7/02/13 8:09 PM, "Justin Lemkul" <jalem...@vt.edu> wrote:



On 2/7/13 1:44 PM, Davide Mercadante wrote:
Dear Justin,

Thank you for your reply. I decreased the time step from 0.02 to 0.005
and
run the simulation again. The simulation still crashes giving LINCS
warning on the same atoms but does it later.
Do you advice to keep reducing the time step in order to reach a
simulated
time where the pull of the whole molecule occurs and I see the force
peaking? I am still not sure why this happens...


No, I think the issue is probably more fundamental.  MARTINI uses fixed
secondary structure (bonds in the topology to preserve geometry).  You're
probably just pulling against those and the algorithms that work on
bonded
interactions are failing.

-Justin

Thanks.

Davide

On 7/02/13 1:05 PM, "Justin Lemkul" <jalem...@vt.edu> wrote:



On 2/7/13 5:20 AM, Davide Mercadante wrote:
Dear All,

I am trying to run a pulling simulation on a small protein (18 aa)
using
the GC forcefield MARTINI (v2.2). I have energy minimized and
equilibrated (NPT) my system and everything seems fine. My system
consists of the protein + water + ions NA+ and CL-.

After the equilibration I start a constant velocity pulling along the
z-direction of the last atom of the chain while the first atom is
positionally restrained in xyz (basically I am stretching the
protein).
At some point from the start of the pulling simulation and before
reaching the full extension of the chain (force profile is still
steadily increasing without peaking) the simulation crashes giving me
these LINCS warnings:

Step 293252, time 5865.04 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 0.157274, max 0.291135 (between atoms 10 and 11)
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
    atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length

Step 293252, time 5865.04 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 0.128562, max 0.230219 (between atoms 7 and 8)
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
    atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length

Step 293253, time 5865.06 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 0.413291, max 0.828515 (between atoms 7 and 8)

Step 293253, time 5865.06 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 0.587032, max 0.986890 (between atoms 11 and 13)
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
    atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
         7      8   46.6    0.2686   0.0579      0.3500
        10     11  121.3    0.2481   0.0550      0.3500
        13     15  168.5    0.2851   0.0278      0.3500

Step 293253, time 5865.06 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 0.108373, max 0.322423 (between atoms 19 and 21)
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
    atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
    atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
         7      8   45.0    0.2686   0.0600      0.3500
        10     11   88.1    0.2481   0.0497      0.3500
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates

Step 293254, time 5865.08 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 0.330732, max 0.654588 (between atoms 23 and 25)
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
    atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
        21     23   42.0    0.2905   0.1426      0.3500
        17     18   92.9    0.3146   0.1560      0.3000
        15     17   35.3    0.5839   0.4003      0.3500
        13     15  141.6    0.0278   0.2742      0.3500

Step 293254, time 5865.08 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 0.312540, max 0.555587 (between atoms 19 and 21)
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
    atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
         8      9   48.0    0.3406   0.1435      0.3100
         7      8   82.3    0.0579   0.4596      0.3500
        10     11  102.9    0.0550   0.5130      0.3500
        11     12   51.9    0.5425   0.3643      0.4000
        11     13   38.5    0.6954   0.1898      0.3500
        13     15  143.4    0.0278   0.2879      0.3500
        15     17   37.3    0.5839   0.3730      0.3500

Step 293254, time 5865.08 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 0.343084, max 0.751867 (between atoms 3 and 5)
        17     18   93.2    0.3146   0.1563      0.3000
        21     23   41.6    0.2905   0.1443      0.3500
        23     24   33.0    0.3784   0.4007      0.4000
        11     13   58.2    0.6954   0.3283      0.3500
        23     24   33.1    0.3784   0.3999      0.4000
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
    atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
         7      8   82.2    0.0579   0.4605      0.3500
         8      9   48.4    0.3406   0.1439      0.3100
        10     11  104.0    0.0550   0.5496      0.3500
        11     12   57.6    0.5425   0.3679      0.4000
        11     13   61.9    0.6954   0.1402      0.3500
        13     15  141.2    0.0278   0.4588      0.3500
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates

Step 293255, time 5865.1 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 32.745333, max 105.228383 (between atoms 17 and 18)
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
    atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
         5      6   30.3    0.3950   0.3971      0.4000
        13     15  172.9    0.2879   4.6287      0.3500
        15     16   33.0    0.2435   5.0674      0.3300
        15     17   51.2    0.3730  11.1793      0.3500
        17     18  107.1    0.1563  31.8685      0.3000
        17     19  143.4    0.3380  10.1576      0.3500
        19     20   86.5    0.3397   6.2047      0.3300
        21     22  103.7    0.3750   6.6220      0.4000
        21     23  150.3    0.1426   6.8152      0.3500

Step 293255, time 5865.1 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 10.273318, max 30.025748 (between atoms 19 and 21)
        23     24  149.4    0.3999   1.3487      0.4000
        25     26   79.9    0.3039   2.4910      0.3000
        25     27  165.9    0.2225   2.4307      0.3500
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
    atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
        21     22  103.7    0.3750   6.6180      0.4000
        21     23  150.2    0.1426   6.8083      0.3500
        19     20   86.5    0.3397   6.2048      0.3300
        17     19  143.4    0.3380  10.1586      0.3500
        17     18  107.1    0.1563  31.8685      0.3000
        15     17   51.2    0.3730  11.1771      0.3500
        15     16   33.0    0.2435   5.0657      0.3300
        13     15  173.1    0.2879   4.6383      0.3500
        23     24  149.5    0.3999   1.3474      0.4000
        25     26   79.9    0.3039   2.4804      0.3000
        25     27  165.7    0.2225   2.3691      0.3500
        28     29   44.1    0.3191   0.0921      0.3100
        28     30   39.4    0.3101   0.2122      0.3500
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates

Step 293256  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: 2.21304
2.21304
2.21304

Step 293256  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: 2.21304
2.21304
2.21304

Step 293256  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: 2.21304
2.21304
2.21304

Step 293256  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: 2.21304
2.21304
2.21304

Step 293256  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: 2.21304
2.21304
2.21304

Step 293256  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: 2.21304
2.21304
2.21304

Step 293256  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: 2.21304
2.21304
2.21304

Step 293256  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: 2.21304
2.21304
2.21304

Step 293256, time 5865.12 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 3192.715629, max 6000.654094 (between atoms 25 and 26)

Step 293256, time 5865.12 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 0.212149, max 0.517573 (between atoms 5 and 7)
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
    atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
         5      7   37.9    0.3543   0.5312      0.3500
         7      8   33.5    0.3821   0.3834      0.3500
         8      9   56.8    0.3361   0.3502      0.3100
         8     10  165.7    0.3548   1.0526      0.3500

Step 293256, time 5865.12 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 95.799929, max 246.403254 (between atoms 19 and 21)
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
    atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
         8      9   56.7    0.3361   0.3566      0.3100
         8     10  165.7    0.3548   1.0708      0.3500
         7      8   33.4    0.3821   0.3897      0.3500
         5      7   37.9    0.3543   0.5312      0.3500
        11     12  121.6    0.2312   2.6433      0.4000
        11     13  149.8    0.3060  15.6610      0.3500
        13     14  123.6    0.4129  14.6116      0.4000
        13     14  124.2    0.4129  14.9085      0.4000
        13     15  169.6    4.6287  44.1184      0.3500
        11     12  121.1    0.2312   2.7328      0.4000
        11     13  149.6    0.3060  15.9678      0.3500
        15     16  168.1    5.0674  39.6694      0.3300
        15     17  159.6   11.1793  63.3062      0.3500
        17     18  114.1   31.8685  33.0371      0.3000
        17     19  112.0   10.1576  36.5026      0.3500
        19     20   71.0    6.2047   9.2619      0.3300
        23     24   62.3    1.3474 352.2061      0.4000
        25     26   63.9    2.4804 1800.5086      0.3000
        25     27   67.1    2.3691 2007.2339      0.3500
        13     15  169.4    4.6287  43.0156      0.3500
        27     28   66.0    0.6878 1992.3756      0.3500
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
    atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
        19     20   71.0    6.2047   9.2610      0.3300
        17     19  112.0   10.1576  36.4983      0.3500
        17     18  114.1   31.8685  33.0303      0.3000
        15     17  159.6   11.1793  63.3215      0.3500
        15     16  168.1    5.0674  39.6801      0.3300
        13     15  169.6    4.6287  44.0779      0.3500
        13     14  124.6    0.4129  14.7983      0.4000
        11     13  148.8    0.3060  16.1472      0.3500
        23     24   62.3    1.3474 352.1905      0.4000
        25     26   63.9    2.4804 1800.4962      0.3000
        25     27   67.1    2.3691 2007.1944      0.3500
        27     28   66.0    0.6878 1992.3052      0.3500
        28     29   44.6    0.0921 600.7400      0.3100
        28     30  137.0    0.2122 696.2760      0.3500
        30     31   38.7    0.2803 155.6825      0.2650
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates

I have a feeling that this happens when I am reaching the full
extension
of the chain because if in the input file (pull.mdp - copied below) I
increase the pull rate the simulation simply crashes before.
This crash does not happen in a full-atom simulation of the same
protein
(using for example OPLS) and the force profile reaches the peak wanted
when the protein approaches the full extension.

I was wondering if you please could help me to understand why this
happens, if this is a force-field related issue and how I could
possibly
solve the problem.
The force costant I apply in the posre.itp file for atom number 1 is
5000 kj mol^1 nm^2 while the pulling force constant (harmonic
potential)
is 500 kj mol^1 nm^2.
The pull.mdp input file is appended below.

title       = Umbrella pulling simulation
define      = -DPOSRES
; Run parameters
integrator  = md
dt          = 0.02
tinit       = 0
nsteps      = 500000   ; 10000.00 ps
nstcomm     = 10
; Output parameters
nstxout     = 100      ; every 2 ps
nstvout     = 100
nstfout     = 100
nstxtcout   = 100       ; every 2 ps
nstenergy   = 100
; Bond parameters
constraint_algorithm    = lincs
constraints             = all-bonds
continuation            = yes       ; continuing from NPT
; Single-range cutoff scheme
nstlist     = 5
ns_type     = grid
rlist       = 1.4
rcoulomb    = 1.4
rvdw        = 1.4
; PME electrostatics parameters
coulombtype     = PME
fourierspacing  = 0.12
fourier_nx      = 0
fourier_ny      = 0
fourier_nz      = 0
pme_order       = 4
ewald_rtol      = 1e-5
optimize_fft    = yes
; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
Tcoupl      = V-rescale
tc_grps     = Protein   Non-Protein
tau_t       = 2         2
ref_t       = 310       310
; Pressure coupling is on
Pcoupl          = Berendsen
pcoupltype      = isotropic
tau_p           = 2.0
compressibility = 4.5e-5
ref_p           = 1.0
refcoord_scaling = com
; Generate velocities is off
gen_vel     = no
; Periodic boundary conditions are on in all directions
pbc     = xyz
; Long-range dispersion correction
DispCorr    = EnerPres

; PULL-CODE

pull = umbrella
pull_geometry = direction
pull_start = yes  ; (we don't want to calculate the initial distance
between 'pull' and 'freeze' by hand)
pull_ngroups = 1  ; (because the reference group doesn't count to this
value)
pull_dim = N N Y  ; (because we want to pull only along the z-axis)
pull_group0 = freeze
pull_group1 = pull
pull_vec1 = 0 0 1
pull_init1 = 0.0 0.0 0.0
pull_rate1 = 0.001
pull_k1    = 500
pull_constr_tol = 1e-6
pull_pbc_atom0 = 0
pull_kB1 = 500
pull_nstxout = 100 ; every 2 ps
pull_nstfout = 100 ; every 2 ps

Thank you, any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Try reducing the time step.

-Justin

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