Well … 400 ps is rather small and you can expect deviations from so short 
simulations if you start from an non-equilibrated system. I am not sure what 
the void is but this indicates that your system might not be equilibrated … 

You can try to decrease the time step and nstlist to see if you the drop of 
temperature is due a flow of energy. 

On Apr 25, 2013, at 3:26 PM, ABEL Stephane 175950 <stephane.a...@cea.fr> wrote:

> Hello Xavier, 
> 
> Thank you for your response. 
> 
>>> nstlist = 10 and the rlist = 1.0 
> My mistake, i did not changes these values when i switched to PME,
> 
> I have rerun the simulations for 400 ps in NPT with these changes and plotted 
> Epot and Temp vs Time The Epot and Temp values are not stables. The average 
> Temp of the system  is better than previously but fluctuate around (294 K) 
> instead of 298 K . Note i use gmx4.5.5 to do my calculations.
> 
> I have also visualized my  system at the end of the NPT run, the  na+, water, 
> surfactant, octane molecules  form a slab with void
> 
> What's wrong ?
> 
> Stephane 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:34:21 +0200
> From: XAvier Periole <x.peri...@rug.nl>
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Martini with PME, temp two low
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> 
> Did you visualise the system? T in function of time? Epot in function of time?
> 
> As a side note (not relevant for PME) the mix of nstlist = 10 and the rlist = 
> 1.0 is pretty bad! You want at least rlist=1.2 when nstlist=5 and rlist=1.4 
> if nstlist =10.
> 
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:10 PM, ABEL Stephane 175950 <stephane.a...@cea.fr> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I am trying to test the martini force field with PME for a charged system 
>> that contains na+, water, surfactant, octane molecules at 298K and P=0.1MPa. 
>> My system works well, if i use the standard shift parameters (correct temp, 
>> and pressure). But for for the simulation with PME , the temp of the system 
>> decrease to  290 K. Below my *.mdp parameters for a NPT equil at 298K
>> 
>> 
>> integrator               = md
>> dt                       = 0.020
>> nsteps                   = 10000 ; 200ps
>> nstcomm                  = 10
>> comm-grps        =
>> ;refcoord_scaling         = com
>> 
>> nstxout                  = 0
>> nstvout                  = 0
>> nstfout                  = 0
>> nstlog                   = 1000
>> nstenergy                = 100
>> ;nstxtcout                = 1000
>> xtc_precision            = 100
>> ;xtc-grps                 =
>> energygrps               = AOT W ION OCT
>> 
>> nstlist                  = 10
>> ns_type                  = grid
>> pbc                      = xyz
>> rlist                    = 1.
>> 
>> ; PME parameters
>> coulombtype              = PME
>> rcoulomb                 = 1.2
>> rvdw                     = 1.2
>> fourierspacing           = 0.12
>> fourier_nx               = 0
>> fourier_ny               = 0
>> fourier_nz               = 0
>> pme_order                = 4
>> 
>> tcoupl                   = v-rescale
>> tc-grps                  = AOT_W_ION OCT
>> tau_t                    = 1.0 1.0
>> ref_t                    = 298 298
>> Pcoupl                   = berendsen
>> Pcoupltype               = isotropic
>> tau_p                    = 1.0
>> compressibility          = 4.5e-5
>> ref_p                    = 1.0
>> 
>> ;gen_vel                  = no
>> ;gen_temp                 = 0
>> ;gen_seed                 = 473529
>> 
>> 
>> ; MARTINI and CONSTRAINTS
>> ; for ring systems and stiff bonds constraints are defined
>> ; which are best handled using Lincs.
>> 
>> constraints              = none
>> constraint_algorithm     = Lincs
>> unconstrained_start      = no
>> lincs_order              = 4
>> lincs_warnangle          = 3
>> 
>> 
>> Results obtained with W/ PME
>> 
>>  Statistics over 10001 steps using 1001 frames
>> 
>>  Energies (kJ/mol)
>>          Bond       G96Angle        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip.
>>   1.63789e+04    1.25195e+03   -4.02093e+05   -8.22079e+03   -4.86843e+04
>>     Potential    Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure (bar)
>>  -4.41367e+05    7.81801e+04   -3.63187e+05    2.90373e+02   -1.76470e+01
>>   T-AOT_W_ION          T-OCT
>>   2.90629e+02    2.90357e+02
>> 
>> Results W:o PME
>> 
>>  Energies (kJ/mol)
>>          Bond       G96Angle        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)      Potential
>>   1.60482e+04    1.24820e+03   -3.34608e+05   -7.33665e+02   -3.18046e+05
>>   Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure (bar)
>>   8.02685e+04   -2.37777e+05    2.98129e+02   -3.07123e+01
>> 
>>         Box-X          Box-Y          Box-Z
>>   1.52926e+01    1.52926e+01    1.52926e+01
>> 
>> 
>>   T-AOT_W_ION          T-OCT
>>   2.98141e+02    2.98129e+02
>> 
>> 
>> Did I miss something ?
>> 
>> 
>> Note that for the moment i do not use the polarizable water model.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help
>> 
>> Stephane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:05:51 +0200
> From: Berk Hess <g...@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [gmx-users] Differences between 4.5.5 and 4.6.2-dev?
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> Hi,
> 
> Twin-range will lead to extra errors, which could be negligible or not.
> But the errors should be the same and have the same effects in different 
> versions.
> I think nothing has changed in the twin-range treatment from 4.5 to 4.6, but 
> I am not 100% sure.
> 
> Which version with twin-range matches your non twin-range results?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Berk
> 
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>> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Differences between 4.5.5 and 4.6.2-dev?
>> From: kes...@icp.uni-stuttgart.de
>> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 10:38:35 +0200
>> To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
>> 
>> Dear Berk, der GMXers,
>> 
>> On Apr 23, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Stefan Kesselheim <kes...@icp.uni-stuttgart.de> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> The temperature is 300.6, target temperature was 300. That should be fine. 
>>> I did check weaker fields and weaker thermostat coupling. Everything stayed 
>>> optimally consistent, within 4.5.5, however incompatible with 4.6.2.
>>> I'm rerunning with cutoffs=1.4 now. I should get results by tomorrow.
>> 
>> Now results are there and without twin-range I obtain consistent results 
>> between the GMX-versions. I'm now switching on twin-range and rerunning to 
>> check if the error does reappear.
>> 
>> I don't know what would be better: Either I did something wrong in a very 
>> stupid way, or ...
>> 
>> Thanks for your patience
>> Stefan
>> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:28:56 +0200
> From: Sainitin Donakonda <saigr...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [gmx-users] Problem with gromacs in Cluster
> To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
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> Hey all,
> 
> I recently ran 20ns simulation of protein ligand complex on cluster i used
> following script to run simulation
> 
> grompp -f MD.mdp -c npt.gro -t npt.cpt -p topol.top -n index.ndx -o
> md_test.tpr
> 
> mpirun -n 8 mdrun -s md_test.tpr -deffnm md_test -np 8
> 
> *I saved this as MD.sh And then submited to cluster using following script*
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> #BSUB -J testgromacs             # the job's name/array job
> #BSUB -W 120:00                       # max. wall clock time in hh:mm
> #BSUB -n 8,8                          # number of processors Min,Max
> #BSUB -o test/output_%J.log             # output file
> #BSUB -e test/errors_%J.log             # error file
> #BSUB -M 8192     #Memory limit in MB
> 
> echo "Started at `date`"
> echo
> 
> cd test
> 
> echo "Running gromacs test in `pwd`"
> 
> ./MD.sh
> 
> echo "Finished at `date`"
> 
> 
> It gave result but when checked files .xtc and created RMSD plots in that
> x-axis of this plot i see only 8ns ...but in MD.MDP file i specified 20ns..
> 
> Cluster Output says that "TERM_RUNLIMIT: job killed after reaching LSF run
> time limit.
> Exited with exit code 140". i gave maximum cluster time 120 hours..still it
> is not sufficient ..
> 
> Can any body tell me  how do it split script i such  that i will get all
> 20ns simulation
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance ,
> 
> Sainitin
> 
> 
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