On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Rob Savoye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Carlos Nazareno wrote: > >> a strong leaning towards the use of Gnash. It's just that with the >> line that was crossed when OLPC & MS partnered up, I guess the >> agreement that only FOSS be used with the XO is not there anymore. > > Don't forget Nicholas's rant about "free software fundamentalists" > holding back his project... He even mentioned the X0 had no flash > support at all... All of that can discourages volunteers (at least this > one) from being active contributors. > >> build 8.20 which will come shipped in the upcoming XO units that will >> ship in the new Give 1 Get 1 program that's going to run this >> November). > > Most of the Gnash problems on the X0 have to do with the version of > Gnash shipped on the X0, and other X0 specific build issues with > gstreamer. My own X0 builds of Gnash have none of these issues > unfortunately, and I've been building Gnash for the X0 since before > there was real X0 hardware. For a long time, the shipped version of > Gnash was ancient. which was part of the problem. > > There has been a considerable amount of Gstreamer hacking lately, so > it'd be nice if the upcoming 0.8.4 release was in the X0 builds. I'm > actually testing Gnash trunk on an X0 today, I just fixed it from brick > status yesterday (a b4). :-) > > The other big problem is of course with codecs. The proprietary player > of course comes with MP3 and FLV support, but the X0 does not. For most > GNU/Linux or BSD distributions users load the ffmpeg-gstreamer plugin, > which is where the support for MP3 and FLV is. For regular Fedora users > this is easy, as the packages from livna work just fine. But on the X0, > it's got some odd distribution specific issues with versions of > libraries, so it doesn't usually work. So of course the easy solution is > to build the ffmpeg-gstreamer plugin as part of the X0 builds, and make > that available to make video and most sound work for existing content. > Unfortunately, as a US based non-profit, the OLPC foundation can't ship > that plugin. :-( > >> Also, there's the issue of AS3/AVM2. Having done tests with a >> benchmarking app we made to test AS2 vs AS3 performance (both >> published for Flash 9, using nearly identical algorithms), the AVM2 >> (AS3) version definitely trumps the AVM1 (AS2)'s performance. And this >> is extremely relevant because we need to squeeze every bit of juice >> out of the XO's limited memory & CPU. > > AS3/AVM2 work is ongoing. While it won't be in this next release, many > simple swf v9 files play fine in Gnash. Much like a large majority of > the software on the X0 is incomplete, Gnash too is a work in progress. > >> Not really. All that work being thrown out the window is far from the >> reality. Despite the looming invasion of Windows XP on the XO, almost >> all of the dev work being done is still for Fedora-Sugar-XO and with a >> strong leaning towards FOSS projects. > > Countries are then installing winXP on them after the machines arrive... > >> As such, it would be really fantastic if some of you guys could also >> sit in at OLPC's developer mailing list at >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Which is way too busy these days... I spent much time on that list > myself till a few months ago and decided to focus on Gnash on other > hardware. It'd be much more efficient to have an OLPC developer or > support person (not me) on the Gnash-dev list. We'd also love to see an > OLPC person at our Hackathon next week, right after the EduDebian > conference.
where can we find details of the hackathon? bobby > - rob - > > _______________________________________________ Gnash-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnash-dev
