On Tuesday 25 November 2008 02:43:40 Karl Goetz wrote: > Just because somethings "more popular" doesn't mean its a better tool, > or more useful.
Better tools can be a matter of opinion. I'm using Kmail 1.10.1 and I say it's the better email client I've used, but that's just my opinion. Some people here may disagree with me and say, for example, that Mutt is much better. > > - OpenJDK also should be preinstalled at gNewSense (or IcedTea with > > Open Java > > applets). > > Java is huge (all its implementations are). I think someone else said > gjc was included by default, so java may already be there. The user needs to install IcedTea, available in gNS repos. > > - a free Flash Player (that also works!) > > Bleh. No flash is a feature, in my humble opinion. Subscribed! > > - preinstalled free multimedia codecs (like Ogg Vorbis, FLAC, > > I thought these are installed by default? > > > Musepack, etc.). For > > newbies at gNewSense it's very frustrating, confusing & irritating to > > install all these codecs, > > unless they knows what should be install and what not! Make things for > > newcomers a bit > > easier! Myself, I was sitting hours at my computer, to find out what > > How much easier? Why don't we fly someone around giving training lessons > to everyone who downloads the iso (or how about no?) > > > (free) codecs I should > > install and which not. > > If its in the repos and is non-free its a bug, so every codec > installable via synaptic should be free. GStreamer, as far as I know, provides free (as in freedom) support for all major formats. It's just a matter of installing all the gstreamer related packages. > > If all these things (above) are preinstalled at gNewSense's next > > edition(s), so I am quite > > sure that more and more people would switch to gNewSense. I am a great > > Just as if it included proprietary drivers, firmware, non-free artwork, > etc it would be more popular (And I could call it... hm... Ubuntu > perhaps.) > > > supporter of > > gNewSense and I like your philosophy of 100% free software, but > > remember that some > > things for newcomers -or people with little computer knowledge- are a > > bit too > > complicated. That's why some things really should be preinstalled to > > I'm one of those people who sees no good reason to make people who > *are* familiar/competent move somewhere else in the name of making it > easy for those who are not. I see this like a drug addict leaving dugs (that is, a dictatorware user leaving it for free software). I had to make the same transition, and for some months I was using some dictatorware, decreasing until I installed gNS. That was the day I voluntarily stop using blobs. > > make things easier > > for people to use gNewSense. Make gNewSense as easy as "Linux Mint", > > but with 100% > > free software preinstalled, not with properitary softwares as in > > Linux Mint. That's my > > suggestion. I there any 100% new user friendly system? We know the answer to this (and no, Mac OS is not. that dictatorware system has a lot of placebo effect, due to marketing and low brain use): no! Every system, free or not, has a learning curve and fills different need for different users. gNS fills a need, and I think it's quite userfriendly. For documentation, Ubuntu's wiki is a good reference, like any other website. But never forget not to accept tips that suggest dictatorware.
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