First, I want to thank Bill for taking the time to respond to Jim. For GNHLUG, this presents an interesting challange. How do we let people/groups "get the word out" to the subsets of our membership that might be interested *without* disturbing the members who aren't interested (or even offended).
I'm thinking that we can have a section on the web site for these announcements - that won't gate to the mailing list. Or should we have a separate mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]?) that people who want to see these things sign up for? Are there any other ideas? --Bruce Bill Sconce wrote: > > James McKim wrote: > >>Hello Bill, >> >>I received your e-mail about sending out to the list. >> >>I take it you're the moderator? >> > > > No, sorry. Please take my comments only as from one > participant of one of the mailing lists. > > These lists aren't moderated. That's one reason they > are sensitive. > > > >>We at SwANH have been trying to find someone who runs >>these groups for a while to determine how best to work >>together. >> > > The persons I CC'd on my mail to you would be a good > starting point: Jerry Kubeck, monadlug; Paul Lussier, > gnhlug. (I should have included: Bruce Dawson, gnhlug. > They are all cc'd on this message.) > > > >>This includes defining how to share maillists for >>announcements of events sponsored/supported by us or >>other software industry groups that might be of interest >>to folks in the NH software community. >> > > Ouch. Be very careful about even mentioning "share > maillists". (Forgetting evil spammers, since we know > they don't care...) relatively innocent spam, which > your announcement probably was, almost always feels to > the sender like something "everyone wants to know about, > how could they not?" - but is to the recipients, > unsolicited commercial e-mail. > > > >>Is there a defined way to communicate information such >>as this? >> > > I understand why you wish there to be such a possibility. > "Defined" sounds more formal than we are. But contacting > the chairmen of the various LUGs is the answer, I would > think. > > > >>Are you the person we should chat with about what we >>can do to work together to address state-wide issues >>around the use of software? >> > > Well, I might be one. As I said, I'm just one recipient. > Jerry or Paul or Bruce would be much more "official" (if > the term really applies in an enthusiasts' group such > as our loose affiliation of Linux LUGs). Or perhaps you'd > like a contact with one of our members who is very interested > in New Hampshire's policymaking with respect to broadband > access to the Internet. (We have such a member.) Or with > another of our members who is concerned with software > procurement policies in state government. And so on. It > depends on what the phrase "state-wide issues around the > use of software" might mean. > > But it's unlikely that we could find a single contact for > you. The Linux LUGs are not organized like SwANH. (They are > really almost not "organized" at all.) > > > David Nelson's reply to me included: > > >>...[we] went to James for help getting the word out. >> We, the SBDC felt that the content was very timely and >> important to the business community. Currently, >> we are going to lose money on this series, and if we >> do end up making money, hopefully, the proceeds would >> go to the NH SBDC to help fund more help for the >> small businesses of NH. >> > > David, James - please don't get me wrong. This looks > like a worthy program. I wish you well with it. It's > just that Linux LUGs aren't the "business community". > > (For what it's worth, I *am* a member of the business > community, and I *do* run a small business. Nevertheless, > I do not want to start getting business announcements > on mailing lists I participate in because of my interest > in Linux.) > > Now, having said all that I ought to be able to suggest > that these various groups *do* have overlapping interests, > at least from time to time, and we *have* had events > which have proven to draw across party lines. I just > went to a very interesting presentation put on by the > Java folks, for instance. We (gnhlug) have had a joint > conference with SwANH concerning Linux. We have worked > with several schools. I'm sure that we will continue > to welcome additional opportunities to work with > other groups. Perhaps it's time to do another joint > presentation on Linux in the enterprise? I personally > would enjoy opportunities to give seminars on Python. > Perhaps someone from the Java LUG would like to make > a presentation at one of the Linux LUG meetings? > > But preemption of mailing lists is likely to earn enemies. > > I hope have been helpful. > > Bill Sconce > President > In Spec, Inc. > > > >>James McKim >>SwANH Communications Committee >> >>Bill Sconce wrote: >> >> >>>Please don't do this. It's spam. These mailing lists are for groups >>>to which people donate their time in unselfish interest. To use such >>>lists without checking first reflects badly upon the judgement of an >>>institution which resorts to it. >>> >>>(On the other hand, at least the message was signed. 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