On 28 Jan 2004 10:06:38 -0500
Bruce Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I believe you have your gripes with the group - considering all the
> "waffling" we've done on the "formalization" of the group. 

No, it was never a point of dispute.  I believe there is value in having
a legal entity for the organization regardless of how "formal' it is or
not.

 > I am opposed to asking for fees from
> "members" to support the "formalization".

I think membership fees are a normal part of many clubs and
organizations, but having said that, it is also true those groups do
something of value for the members with those fees.  Not sure what that
would be with GNHLUG and without something of value for the members, I
would also object to membership fees.  Clearly not just for the
formalization process.

OTOH, is it fair to expect people who are dedicating their time and
energy to also contribute their money to provide refreshments at a
meeting or food at a party or print t shirts or announcements?  I think
not.  You, Maddog,  Jerry and others have contributed no small
amount in the past, but I don't think it fair to rely upon a few. 

If you cannot contribute code or docs, contributing money is another
way to support an open source project and GNHLUG is not exception.
Either by dues or by contributing freely as the need arises.


> Seems to me, we just need someone to "take charge" and do it - if we
> don't like it, then we can leave. Sorta like what maddog did back in
> the early days - when things were exciting.

I agree, but to sustain the organization we need more that a series of
folks who will take charge until their energy, time, and money run out.
At least to provide a degree of continuity regardless of the degree of
formality the group elects to have.  

I really have no great desire for formality and I suspect the
personalities of many of us are more attuned to an informal group.
That said, there are valid reasons for some structure and organization
depending upon what GNHLUG does and where it wants to go.

For example, lets say I have an idea of providing a retirement center
with a network with Internet access using Linux as a showcase and
simply to do a good thing.  Do you think it matters if I talk to the
head of the retirement center as just a guy off the street with some
vague collection of friends who call themselves GNHLUG or if I go as a
representative of a state organization called GNHLUG?

If we want to reach beyond ourselves, then some degree of structure
becomes important.

Ed Lawson 
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