Adding Bill Ricker back to the cc list, as he originally raised this  
issue.

Be careful not to confuse 'willing to read a PDF' with 'willing to  
spearhead an effort'. :)

IMHO, the only value we could offer is, "hey did you know there's a  
local LUG available, for the other 51 weeks of the year?" so it might  
be wise to add BLU, VAGUE, WLUG, MELUG, and RILUG to any printed  
materials generated.  That said, it might be possible to raise $1000  
from the memberships of those groups via fundable.org, if it were  
considered of sufficient merit.  I'd rather chip in $10 than spend  
$40 on bus fare and a day sitting at a booth... :)

-Bill

On Jun 2, 2008, at 17:08, Ted Roche wrote:

> Bill McGonigle wrote:
>> On Jun 2, 2008, at 09:03, Bill Ricker wrote:
>>> Are the LUGs/LoCo doing anything around USENIX Boston this month?
>> FYI, I just checked on the corporate rates and they are:
>>    6' display table: $3000
>>    tote bag insert (1 page): $1,000
>>    Advertising in the Conference On-site Guide full page ad:  
>> $1,000;  half page ad: $600
>
> Yeah, not a cheap way to attend the conference.
>
>> Would anybody like to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and see if  
>> they  have a local-nonprofit-package?
>
> I think we have some pretty good contacts if you'd really like to  
> offer to do something. Some of our affiliate members are, or were,  
> USENIX veterans and could probably get us in touch with the folks  
> who make the decisions (vice the ones who answer email aliases).  
> What would you like to propose?
>
> This is the first I'd heard of the conference (not of USENIX, of  
> course, just this event). If you'd like to act as point person to  
> coordinate coverage for a booth, this is certainly something we  
> could probably drum up some support for, get some handouts, loan  
> out the banner, etc. But I'm not sure this is where I'd want to  
> concentrate my efforts. It feels a bit like preaching to the choir.  
> And I'm not sure a booth presence adds all that much value. This  
> isn't a crowd likely to be amazed by TuxRacer or even Maya on  
> Linux. The tote bag insert seems like a better use of time and  
> effort, though certainly not money. I'd be glad to contribute a  
> lovely DTP'd page for USENIX to include for the benefit of their  
> members, but not at a cost.
>
>> I think we're complementary to USENIX; I announce their events at   
>> DLSLUG for free.  If they think we're competition, that could be   
>> interesting.  In that case, I'll happily return their requests  
>> for  announcements with our for-profit-user-group announcement  
>> rate  schedule next time. ;)
>
> ;) Would be nice if someone paid, but...
>
> My experience in talking with some other local conferences is that  
> they were covering their costs to have tables set up, electrified  
> and rental expenses in quoting a price for booth space. This is how  
> vendors help defray the costs of the conference. The idea of not- 
> for-profit volunteer organizations adding to the value of their  
> conference is an alien one to most event organizers I've spoke  
> with. Some random hippies want to walk in off the street, take over  
> a booth and preach "Freedom" isn't their typical customer. If  
> there's a DotOrg Pavilion like Linux World, maybe, but if there are  
> glittering booths from HP and IBM, Computer Associates and Oracle,  
> a couple UG volunteers in a booth with a laptop looks a bit out of  
> place.
>
> I'd suggest, if we're trying to calculate cost and effort vs.  
> results, we'd be a lot better off finding out if any members are  
> going and loading them up with handouts or biz cards to post in  
> worthwhile locations, e.g., bulletin boards.
> -
>
> Ted Roche
> Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
> http://www.tedroche.com

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