I think you are absolutely correct. In the case of the HP V-class server, 
there were only 2 admins in the entire facility who knew how to shut it 
down properly. (Note on the V-Class you log into the test station and 
send the shutdown command from there). One must also consider the 
the way people work in different environments. Raytheon's model was 
that you do development on a workstation or development platform and 
you test on a test platform. 

On 22 Jun 2000, at 12:19, Derek Martin wrote:

> 
> The problem here isn't the security model, but either the environment or
> the people managing it.
> 
> And yes, working securely DOES slow you down, but if you or your company
> need security (and EVERYONE does at least to some extent), then you SHOULD
> slow down, and think about what implications your actions have on
> security.
--
Jerry Feldman
Contractor, eInfrastructure Partner Engineering   
508-467-4315 http://www.testdrive.compaq.com/linux/

Compaq Computer Corp.
200 Forest Street MRO1-3/F1
Marlboro, Ma. 01752

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