Not to cause confrontation but the newer Celerons are based on the
PIII core not the PII.  Anything described as FC-PGA is the newer core.
That doesn't necessarily make them better.

The PIII core may make the Celerons a little better and from most
of the reports I have read they will work with a 100 MHz bus.  Since
they are clock locked, the 600 will run at 900.  I don't remember
exactly who did the testing, it was probably Tom's Hardware or Sharky
Extreme.

Even after the overclocking they still didn't outperform a lower MHz
rated PIII in all tests.  The set-associativity of the  cache and the
size
play a big role there.  With recent price drops (see Sharky's CPU
Price Guide) a PIII 667/133 isn't all that much more expensive...  In
fact it is less than the Celeron 700!

Tom's Hardware:
http://www.tomshardware.com

Sharky Extreme
http://www.sharkyextreme.com

Sharky's CPU Price Guide.
http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/weekly_cpu/


Benjamin Scott wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Tom Rauschenbach wrote:
> > Anybody got experience with Celeron processors?
> 
>   Yup.  They are more-or-less a Pentium II with smaller cache and slower FSB
> [1].  They work pretty well.  (Where I work, we've been deploying Linux
> "servers" using Celrey CPUs for several months now.)
> 
> > I understand that they are crippled in some way, but I have no details.
> 
>   See above.  Also:  The *original* Celeron ran at 300 MHz, with *NO* cache in
> the CPU at all.  This led to abysmal performance in most situations.  A lot of
> overclockers took to it, though, because with no in-CPU cache, you can really
> crank the CPU clock without frying it.
> 
>   The 300 was the only Celeron with no cache.  Soon after, Intel realized they
> dropped the ball, and introduced the 300A.
> 
> > They're cheap even at 500 Mhz.  How crippled could a 500 Mhz machine be?
> [...]
> > What I'm trying to do is get my wife a decent machine that she can dual boot
> > Linux and Win9X.
> 
>   I might recommend a system based on the AMD K6 chips.  They're significantly
> cheaper then anything Intel, and generally offer the same or better
> performance for most things.  The K6 also runs the FSB faster then your
> average Celeron.
> 
>   The only thing the K6 doesn't do so well at is heavy-duty floating-point
> math -- i.e., 3D rendering.  So if you're playing a lot of Quake III, doing
> CAD work, or animating Toy Story, then get a PIII or an Athlon.
> 
>   HTH,

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