On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Tom Rauschenbach wrote:
> Interesting; my netscape gets a bus error when trying to view
> www.opengroup.org which usually only happens with "this page best viewed
> with ..." pages.
Try starting Netscape with the "-install" switch ("netscape -install"),
which forces it to install its own colormap. I've seen this fix bus errors
with Netscape before. No, I don't know why.
> Does the Open Group need to be reminded why they exist or do I need to
> finally admit that Netscape for Linux sucks ?
Yes.
> The Web experience for Linix users is crappy.
It's not *that* bad. Probably 90% of the websites out there work just
fine.
Anecdote: A friend of mine setup a Linux workstation as part of a project
we've been working on. While we're not working on it, his kids use it to surf
the web (and play Same Game :). They're having a blast, and they like it
better then the "other kid's computer" because it doesn't crash. :)
> We have to admit that. What can we do to make it better?
Find a company with billions of dollars to pour into web browser
development, like MS does with IE?
Wait for Opera to finish their Linux port?
Wait for Mozilla to produce something usable?
Wait for MS to port IE to Linux?
Wait for hell to freeze over? ;-)
> How do we get a browser that isn't the giant bloated Mozilla ...
Well, Mozilla isn't done yet, and won't be for some time, so I don't think
it is fair to call it bloated yet. Standard programming practice is to make
it work first, and then make it fast/small. I'm taking a wait-and-see
attitude on that one.
I have heard of a project to take the Gecko rendering core of Mozilla (which
is supposedly very fast and small) and make a browser-that's-just-a-browser
out of it. But again, we have to wait and see.
> ... [Mozilla] still does not do Java ...
Mozilla does not and will not ship with a JVM. This is both a conscious
design decision and a legal issue. However, you *can* download, install and
use any OpenJVM-compliant JVM for use with it, which is actually a fairly neat
concept. The JVM is no longer tied to the browser.
> ... how do we get a Shockwave player ?
This is completely up to Macromedia. See previous diatribes about standards
and open file formats vs closed, proprietary garbage like Shockwave.
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