[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Kevin D. Clark wrote:
> > What does your mail program do when it sees this?:
> > 
> > A damsel with a dulcimer / In a vision once I saw: / It was an Abyssinian
> > maid, / And on her dulcimer she played, / Singing of Mount Abora. / Could
> > I revive within me / Her symphony and song,
> 
>   It broke the line on spaces, presenting a wrapped paragraph, begining with a
> single right-angle-bracket (>), and colored the entire paragraph with the
> color I have configured for first-level quoted text.

That's very reasonable.

My bias is that I came from the era when mailers that handled color
were virtually non-existent, so I don't go for colors much.  But I
don't deny that this sounds like a reasonable scheme.

>   When I replied, it maintained the original line as a single line, wider than
> 80 columns.  I then used the [CTRL]+[J] command to wrap it, which handled the
> quote leader (>) for me.

Excellent.

[snip]

> > If "yes", great, but what if I send you an ASCII picture that gets wrapped
> > by PINE, thus rendering it unusable?
> 
>   If you send me an ASCII picture wider than my terminal, it is going to look
> crappy, regardless.
> 
>   If I then widen by terminal window, Pine "unwraps" the text as the window
> gets wider, allowing me to view the picture as intended.

Excellent.  My mailer does this too.

>   If I instead save the message to a file, the original message is preserved,
> formatting (or lack thereof) intact.  I could then use something like "less
> -S" to try and scroll-and-view the picture.

Excellent.

> > I'm a member of the "try not to send email with lines >79 characters"
> 
>   I agree, but I also agree with the "Be generous in what you accept, and
> strict in what you produce" theory of operation.

This is pretty much my point of view.  Although my generosity has
limits...

> > ... and the "mailers shouldn't touch the contents of email messages"
> 
>   Pine is not modifying the contents of the message; it is handling
> presentation of the message intelligently.  This is an important
> distrinction. 

Absolutely.
  
> Any mailer more advanced than /bin/mail (which simply spews to stdout) handles
> presentation.  Paging, MIME decoding, multiple character sets, HTML mail,
> etc., all require the rendering agent to do some processing.  Certainly XEmacs
> does!  :-)

Yup, my mailer certainly handles all of that.  


So, it sounds like Pine is a decent email program.  I think that my
mailer is decent too.  So I think that we agree.

Certainly we've both seen lots of mailers that have a poorer set of
features.



Mmm.  It's almost beer-o-clock!  (-:

--kevin
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