I regularly use IPSec through my Starband feed without any problems.

- Marc

On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Greg Kettmann wrote:

> Another negative of Starband (or DirectPC) is that they both use (to the
> best of my knowledge) a VPN.  That is they encrypt and then decrypt all
> traffic to and from your site.  Your connection is actually to their
> encrypt/decrypt server farm.  This precludes any VPN's of your own (if you
> use them).  I do use a VPN and so any VPN traffic would have failed since
> you can't tunnel within a tunnel.  This according to their FAQ's and from
> phone calls I made.
>
> Does someone with the service know if this also restricts your ports?
> They say in the FAQ's you can't play interactive online games, but I
> assume that's because of latency, not a port issue.
>
> Farrell Woods wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > People,
> > >
> > > I know a couple of you had mentioned using Starband,
> > > (If you haven't left due to flamewars).
> > > I was wondering if it uses internal PIC(?) boards, or an
> > > external box, similar to a cable modem.
> >
> > Depends on who you get it from.
> >
> > If you get it from Rat Shack then it's internal; works with windoze
> > only.  If you get it from the Dish people then you get a box that's
> > a bit bigger than the average VCR.  The box contains the sattelite
> > transceiver; out the other end it's USB (!).  Also on the back
> > of the box is a TP Ethernet connector, but it's dormant.  Their
> > software package also works only with windoze.  But there's
> > a glimmer of hope.
> >
> > Now...the trick is that if you open the box (thus voiding the
> > warranty) you'll quickly discover that the USB connection is
> > actually a little daughter card that can be removed.  Removing
> > the daughtercard re-activates the previously dormant TP connector,
> > which you then hook to your Linux box.
> >
> > Having said all that...  The problem with Starband is latency.  Where
> > this nails you big-time is precisely with bursty, itinerant stuff
> > like web/http traffic.  Latencies via sattelite run at best around
> > 250ms (not counting latencies through the 'net itself.)  That adds
> > up real fast, so part of the software package from Starband is
> > a elaborate proxy, part of which runs on your PC and the other
> > part at their NOC.  The proxy has the effect of squashing multiple
> > requests/connections so you don't take as much of a beating going
> > through the sattelite.
> >
> > Anyway, there's a lot more interesting info out there.  I'd suggest
> > taking a look at http://www.starbandusers.com.  They just posted
> > some instructions on how to make Starband work with Linux (Mandrake 8)
> > Dunno if this includes anything on the caching proxy software...
> > Starbandusers also has instructions on how to remove the USB
> > card and reactivate the RJ45 jack.
> >
> > FYI I'm not a Starband user myself but I've been looking at it
> > as an alternative to Adelphia or DSL (Dark Side Link) after my
> > house is built.
> >
> > Hth,
> >
> >         -- Farrell
> >
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