Well, We, Charlie and I, just took of Caldera 2.4 and replaced it with Mandrake 7.2 on my home machine. What a classy install and distribution. We have also installed the Win4Lin 2.0 eval with Win 98 and MS Office to see what would happen. A couple of problems, but Charlie "IS THE MAN!!" If you ever needed to show and tell Linux to a newbie, Mandrake 7.2 + is the way to go. I am now a very happy camper. Jerry >On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Karl J. Runge wrote: >> Anybody using Redhat 7.1? > > We're testing it out on a workstation or two here, and I've installed it on >my workstation at home for kicks. > >> Is RH 7.1 working better now? > > There do seem to be less bugs out of the box. The install is very slick. >It detects just about everything except your shoe size automatically. It even >probes the monitor for X11 display parameters. I can honestly say this makes >X11 easier to setup than Microsoft Windows. Fairly recent versions of GNOME >and KDE, plus a good supply of applications, make the whole "desktop >experience" a lot nicer. Red Hat 7.1 (along with SuSE 7.1) are serious >challengers to MS-Windows on the desktop front. > > One other neat thing was that it offers to setup a complete firewall as part >of the install procedure, and in fact selects that by default. It appears Red >Hat is making a real commitment to security now (about time, too). > >> - any upgrading issues/gotchas? > > Haven't tried an upgrade from 6.x -> 7.x. > >> for you did it break any (non-Redhat-supplied) apps, scripts, etc. > > It almost certainly will. > > For one, RHS has moved to comply with the FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy >Standard). That means file locations have changed for many things. Anything >that assumes XYZ is at a particular location may get confused. However, I see >*this* as a Good Thing in the long run. As for the rest... well, read on: > > With RHL 7.1, Red Hat has moved to the 2.4 kernel exclusively. From >everything I've read, the 2.4 kernel is *not* ready for prime time -- the >memory manager has *serious* issues that can cause crashes or system >corruption. > > They are still using their "GCC 2.96" compiler, which is based on a >*development snapshot* of GCC. It is not binary compatible with anything else >known to man. Binaries built on RHL 7.x systems will almost certainly not >work anywhere else. The improved language support in this version of GCC has >uncovered many bugs in existing sources, so it may well break source builds >for things that "worked before". Binaries built on other systems have a fair >chance of working on RHL 7.x, *if* you install the compatibility libraries. > > (To be completely fair to Red Hat, GCC has a long-standing history of >breaking binary compatibility with previous versions. The real issue is Red >Hat's use of a development snapshot as the default compiler in a supposedly >production release, without even marking it as such.) > > Red Hat seems to have a serious problem in the 7.x series with what can be >considered stable, production-quality code. Their customers, myself included, >depend on them to provide a solid distribution. Including cutting-edge stuff >is fine, but it should be clearly marked as such, and it should not be the >default or only option. > > I've been a Red Hat fan for a long time, but the 7.0 and 7.1 releases have >really soured me. Hopefully, they will clean up their act for the >8.x series. >Otherwise, their long-term outlook is not so good. One of the main reasons I >prefer Linux is the quality of the code -- software that doesn't suck, as ESR >puts it. Red Hat seems to think they can get away with publishing a >"Microsoft-quality" release. To me, at least, that is unacceptable. > >-- >Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >| The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | >| necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | >| organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | > > >********************************************************** >To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the >*body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: >unsubscribe gnhlug >********************************************************** -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jerry Kubeck Customer Support Appropriate Solutions, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.AppropriateSolutions.com ********************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **********************************************************
