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To: "Rich C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "GNHLUG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: "Roll your own" DSL.
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Rich C wrote:
>
> > Make sure you read the related discussion board too...puts the whole
idea in
> > perspective...
> >
> > I believe it's under "baloney" and the article title.
>
> I'm afraid I don't see your point. A non-filtered copper pair would make
> a great x-DSL link between houses. For example, right now in P'boro, a
Yes it would...that wasn't my point...actually, I HAD no point, except that
there seem to be logistical issues with GETTING that copper pair from the
phone company, as well as logistical issues with how to get the high speed
internet connection without paying big bucks for it or stealing it. If you
read the discussion board, these issues are brought to light. I doubt the
article's author actually tried to implement this idea in several markets.
> 128K SDSL link runs ~$120/mo.; splitting that cost with a neighbor (and
> adding a pro-rated $600 for the new SDSL routers, and $30/mo. for the
> service) would bring you to $100/mo. to defray the cost of the routers in
> the first year (split evenly between the two parties, which probably isn't
> how it would work), and $85/mo. thereafter. Sounds like a bargain to me.
> If it weren't for the fact that I'm moving out of P'boro, I'd actually set
> this up for some of my friends... (And what with all the DSL providers
> that have gone under, I bet EBay has some wicked deals on compatible SDSL
> modems, which would make this even easier to figure out.)
So....you'd be using a 2.2MB pipe to share a 128K SDSL line with a neighbor,
which would, at peak usage, net you 64K of bandwidth. Again, it boils down
to, "How do you get the internet pipe to use the bandwidth potential of that
dry copper pair?"
>
> -Ken
>
> P.S. Also bounced it off a hardware telecom engineer friend of mine, and
> he was really impressed -- and saw no issues with the hardware side of
> things. The damn 3.3KHz filter *does* mean, however, that it's probably
> not viable for inter-CO communications. He did say that it would probably
> be technically illegal, being that it would be reselling of a commercial
> service (akin, I guess, to stealing a cable TV feed)... but I somehow
> doubt that anyone doing this would get big enough to be noticed.
The technical side of things is not the problem (seems like it never is any
more.) The two issues are GETTING the copper (assuming you are not just
stringing it between houses) and finding the internet backbone connection to
share, at a reasonable price.
Rich Cloutier
SYSTEM SUPPORT SERVICES
President, C*O
www.sysupport.com
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