In a message dated: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 20:40:19 EST
Benjamin Scott said:
>> This would completely mess up things like:
>>
>> $ for i in `ls /some/long/path`
>> > do
>> > cp $i ${i}.bak
>> > cp /some/long/path/$i .
>> > done
>
> Oh, and BTW:
>
> for i in /some/long/path/*
>
>makes a lot more sense. :-)
It was a brief example so I didn't have to type too much. I usually
do things like:
for i in `ls -lrt /some/long/path | grep 'Nov 25' | awk '{print `$9'
do
some stuff here
done.
> If someone is that clueless, I doubt they will have the ability to create
>the alias in the first place.
Go to any large Unix-based engineering environment and you'll find
loads of people who all pass around their .cshrc files and don't have
one clue what 99% of what's in them does or where it comes from.
> Aliases are not the problem. The problem is aliasing commands *for
>someone else*. If I alias 'ls' to 'rm -rf .', then that is my own business,
>and presumably I have a reason. It is things like Unix and Linux distro
>vendors setting up "default" aliases which gets people into trouble. I
>think that is a bad idea, for all the reasons Paul brings up, and wish
>vendors would not engage in the practice.
>
> Is that what you are trying to say? :-)
Yeah, but it's so much shorter to say:
I don't like aliases, don't use them! :)
>> People in general never comment them ...
>
> I comment mine. :-)
You're not "People in general..." :) As a matter of fact, you're not
even "People in private" ;)
> And, in fact, for the same reason we are having this
>conversation. People sometimes find useful things in others' aliases; I
>want them to know what is going on, not just copy a set of magic runes.
Well Ben, as Derek and I have said more times than I can count:
If more people were like us, this world would be a much
better place!
Of course, we'd all be bored, since we'd then have nothing to bitch
about :)
>> You wouldn't catch a carpenter who didn't know all the ins and outs of
>> his skill or miter saw ...
>
>You also won't find a carpenter who insists on using hand tools for
>building a house when power tools make the job ten times faster. :-)
Damn! No wonder my house still isn't finished ;)
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